Why build a nice house?. It just looks like alot of work and $. Just move into a mobile home and be done with it.

Why create a multi course meal with ingredients you have to go shopping for? That's time and $, just go the McD's.

Why go deep sea fishing when you can go to the store and get a fish more easily and much cheaper?

Not that there's anything wrong with adding a SC, some of my wonderful Chevy and SC friends do that. I even tried to mount an industrial blower on my first Porsche.
We seem to be living in the age of cheap and easy and even our passions are now being looked at something that must be done cheaply and easily with the goal of skating through with minimal effort. Screw that!

 

In my mind, rational went out the window a long time ago, when "hp/$" and "928" appear in the same sentence. Doesn't matter whether it's S/C or stroker, for me it's all about the craftsmanship, innovation, and ingenuity:

 

No worries...the men with jackets got me a long time ago..the world is safe. Ha, Ha!!

But seriously, if you open the hood and see a 928 Engine that looks stock, but is full of aftermarket parts...isn't that really a fake?... just a facade??...or what???

Don't get me wrong, I don't judge anyone for what they do with their 928s, if they like it, that is all that matters.

BUT, for the "Porsche Engine Purists", at what point does the Porsche engine become just a Porsche block full of aftermarket (and heaven forbid US made at that) parts??.

A block and a set of cam covers doesn't an engine make...does it? Really??

To me personally I am just a performance nut (hence the guys with the jackets, eh) and I am impressed with what Greg, Mike, Carl and many others do..BUT I am equally impressed with what Aspkiller and others do too...in the end it's all Hot Rodding to me, no matter what you call it, or what marquee you do it with, or not...and individuality is what started Hot Rodding and IMHO what it is all about!

Funny, I wonder what the AC purists were thinking when they started stuffing 289s in their beloved cars...same with the Sunbeam Alpines....last I checked the AC Cobras are one of the most talked about, revered, and sought after sports cars ever....hmmmm.

I have said before, do what makes YOU happy...doesn't matter what the rest of us think..or certainly shouldn't matter. Just have FUN!!!

If I was a rich man I would be proud and happy to have ALL of the following 928s in my garage.

#1 - A pure stock all original 928 with every part being a Porsche part

#2 - A tricked out super light bare bones Twin Screwed 928 Street Toy

#3 - A Full blown best Greg could do with unlimited funds Stroker 928 (with very large rear tires)

#4 - A tricked out 928 "Camaro" with an LS9 Crate motor stuffed in it with a 6-speed tranny :-) Heck just to drive to my local Chevy Dealership to have them do warranty work on the engine would be hilarious!

#5 - Bribe Jim D. to let me keep #1 in my Garage part of the year :-)

#6 - The Geljack GTS Stroker Monster with 3.09 gearing...oh wait that one is already there...Ha, Ha!!

Cheers,

Dave

 

Spoken like a true Hot Rodder.. SALUTE!!!!

 

How about getting back to the OP's original topic????

I think a nice stroker can be built on a budget, and well within the budget suggeted by the OP.

I have been planning for some time to build two 6.5L strokers and have been accumulating the necessary stuff to do it with as discretionary cash comes available. The problem is that to do it on a budget takes a lot of time. If one is going to build a stroker "right now," most are right--it is expensive.

I started about 3 or 4 years ago with the goal to build one stroker, but in the process of doing it on a tight budget I found it was better to plan to build two strokers. Here is how it has gone.

When I decided to try to build a stroker I started asking around about where I could get a stroker crank. Through one of the venders I got a lead on a crank, but it was kind of expensive, so I waited. About a year later I inquired about the crank and found that I could buy it for quite a bit less because it had not sold at the previous price. I bought it for $1200. It is used, but little, and looks like new. It is, however, one with 8 counterweights. For one of my projects that is actually just right. It is consistent with my Early Panamera project and fits right in with the powerful but smooth running of the later version of the car I am going to emulate.

Later, while watching eBay, I found another stroker crank by Scat for $2400 and bought it. It is new.

So, I plan to build two Budget strokers based on these. For the first, I will summarize the costs so far as follows:

Crank $1200
Rods, 5.85 Chev $400
Pistons, 968 $200
Cams, Colins $1800
Gaskets, eBay $180
Squirter Block $200
Valves, 968 $250
Springs $530
Berarings, Est.
Mains $250
Rods $150

Total: $5160

I also expect the 104 headgaskets will be about $200, and the studs about $500 or more.

There is some machine work, including the cyl bores, and head work and balancing, but I will scrounge around locally for that and see what I can get it done for.

Overall, I expect to do the whole 6.5L conversion, not counting all the other stuff that will come off one of my engines, for about $10,000. A little more for the other one with the Scat crank, but probably around $12,000 total, plus the "core" value of the original complete engine.

I know, there is probably a lot that I am missing, but not enough to run it up to $20,000. I think.

Jerry Feather

 

But Mike, what if you can only afford a Mobile Home....can you still not have fun with your 928 and Hot Rod it????

Surely we haven't become "911 people" ....or have we????

Dave

 

I can only speak for myself, but if I wanted another Chevy engine car, I would have bought another Corvette.

A Porsche is something special, at least in my eyes.

As far as the quality issues, you can do first rate quality work on pretty much any car, some just have a head start on the quality part as they started life as very high quality products.

I am always amazed at the build quality of the 928 and the lack of it in the Corvette.

I have owned both, worked on both, lived with both on the streets for extended periods.

There is just no comparison in my book.

The Corvette is better around town, I will give it that much, but once you get on the big road, the tables get turned in a hurry.

But then again, a real big difference in cars like my 87 Corvette and 87 928 is when new, you could have bought three Corvettes for what the 928 cost.

Performance cost money, quality work from people like Greg Brown and Mike Simard cost even more, but these guys are on a different planet when it comes to workmanship.

 

You ain't never met no Carrol "Super Snake" Shelby...LIAR!!!



Back to the original Topic...what was that...oh yeah...the best Budget Stroker..

Heck, every "stroker expert" here has already said here in this thread that Stroker and Budget do not belong in the same sentence....so why not get yourself a Mobile Home Edition Supercharger Kit...hell you could spring for the "Double Wide Edition" and get a Twin Screw. LOL

 

I guess I'm seeing how many I can offend in one thread
It's good that all my SC, Chevy, and now mobile home, friends are so awesome as to tolerate this!

 

that is the truth~! (the quality part... they create 928 art)

 

DR.....the smily faces were indication of jest ("does anyone remember laughter?".......Led Zepplin)

Yes the engine with non Porsche internals does make it a non std engine but Porsche dont make a new 928.....yet, so were left with the same question for hp:

super charge.....Carl or Tim or ????
turbo ????????
bore and stroke Greg or DIY in this neighbourhood

 

Malcolm,

Sorry I didn't put enough Smileys in my posts, I am a little rusty...but trust me, this is the most fun I have had in ages(sad but true)...I have been laughing the whole time...Keep it COMING!!!!!

There are much more important stuff to be serious about these days.., this is FUN STUFF, I Love IT!!!!

Cheers,

Dave.

 

Mike,

You set yourself up for that one...no way could I resist that!!!

Ha HA!!



Dave

 

Yea, and I did not mean to exclude others like DR that also do real quality work, it was just GB and MS came to mind.

I am on the fourth set of weatherstripping on my Corvette, and it needs a new set, these are GM parts, and are expensive, about a grand.

The originals on the 928 are still really good, just things like that and there are hundreds of things like that.

As far as the stroker VS boost thing, I think it would make one hell of a combo, but then again, look at my screen name.
Just because it is boosted does not mean it is low quality, you can do really good work with either.
I have a extra motor on the floor that I plan to build as a stroker at some point, with Greg Browns and Mikes help.

I really think a 6.4-7.0 with a small amount of boost would be wonderful, you can use very mild cam profiles and still make drive train destroying power.
I am talking street power, not race power, I doubt a supercharged engine is going to be reliable for day after day of serious track usage.
But I really do not know about that.


We have another one here that does just exceptional work, but it is not on cars and that is Paul Hunt, I am still in awe of his metal working skills.

We are going to try and build some uber quality 928 stuff, like a drysump or ADI tank for the rear of a 928 in stainless and or aluminum.

And at some point, possibly a cast airbox that can withstand boost that will work with Mikes ITB's.
That will be one of the key things, a really stout, good looking airbox like is on a V8 M5.

 

I've always wanted to use the windshield washer tank area for an oil tank for a dry sump area... size area its about 3 gallons....