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Old 08-25-2011, 03:14 PM
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Default used 32V lifters needed

1) does anyone have known good lifters for sale?
2) lifters are very expensive. Are used lifters OK?
Old 08-25-2011, 03:36 PM
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Interesting question, I've always heard that lifters wear to match the cam lobe and have to go back into same position.
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I have a set of used lifters from my 944S (same part number) that are sitting in a Tupperware container that are free if you want them. - 16 of them.

The engine coughed up a rod bearing, no lifter related issues before that. They are probably fine, I bought new ones because I was told to do so
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Roger sells new ones for significantly less than Porsche.... since you are going with new/different cams I would recommend new ones.
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Originally Posted by Sterling
Roger sells new ones for significantly less than Porsche.... since you are going with new/different cams I would recommend new ones.
Are those the lifters with the VW part number?

Not saying this is a bad thing just curious if that is what people are using.
Old 08-25-2011, 04:54 PM
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I have 16 on a shelf, at $11 or so I would go with Rogers.

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The new VW lifters are cheap and work well.

Remember you cannot blame parts failure on the mechanic when you insist on the mechanic using old, untested parts.

So unless you have a desiring for another opening of this motor, buy new.
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not to mention some places will not warranty cams unless you provide proof of purchase for a set of lifters... I don't know about our 928 vendors tho.
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personally I would need the cam back for inspection before warrantying it for obvious reasons.
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If enough people are interested I can do the lifters for $10 each 8>)
VW Lightweight Lifters - I have them in my own GTS.
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The lifters do come apart, so you can disassemble them and clean them. I have a ultrasonic cleaner and that works really well. You can also examine/clean the pieces that make the filter work hydraulically, so there is no risk of installing a "bad" lifter.

We used to do this only with lifters in engines that had "issues" with failures of some component, but now we do it whenever we do a rebuild. That "shelf" inside the lifter collects a bunch of debris.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
The lifters do come apart, so you can disassemble them and clean them. I have a ultrasonic cleaner and that works really well. You can also examine/clean the pieces that make the filter work hydraulically, so there is no risk of installing a "bad" lifter.

We used to do this only with lifters in engines that had "issues" with failures of some component, but now we do it whenever we do a rebuild. That "shelf" inside the lifter collects a bunch of debris.
Greg, do you lap the face of the lifter as well?
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Originally Posted by Fabio421
Greg, do you lap the face of the lifter as well?
Not usually. I generally keep lifters with the orignal cam lobe and I don't see any advantage to messing with them, once they are worn in. On engines that I don't know where they came from, or when I might use a "used" cam, I do "lap" them.

New cams get new lifters....which is a completely different subject. They are a complete mess....there's a good reason the VW ones only cost $10 or $12. Buyer beware! It takes us 40-50 lifters to find 32 that we can use....and by the time we determine that we can't use them, they are not returnable. I've got a pretty big box of brand new "junk" lifters.
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Sold hundreds of VW lightweight lifters over the last six years with NO issues what so ever - have them in my own cars with no issues.
But then again I do not build $60,000 stroker motors?
I guess next you will say they are made in China 8>) and we know they are not.

Scary to think that the Porsche lifters are so bad!!!
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Not usually. I generally keep lifters with the orignal cam lobe and I don't see any advantage to messing with them, once they are worn in. On engines that I don't know where they came from, or when I might use a "used" cam, I do "lap" them.
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Let's discount the wrath of god that will be brought down on my by my wife if I do this but can I lap the tops of the lifters with lapping compound on my ultra flat marble counter. I mean there isn't a beam of light shining through under a straight edge on this thing.

So lapping compound and smooth the tops? Let's just hypothetically say you don't know where the lifters came from because you knocked them over and got mixed up. Rub the lapping compound on the double thick glass on the counter top and make them smooth once again?


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