Converting engine management.....
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Converting engine management.....
so i have decided to build up a 4.7 euro motor, then SC the thing. but id like to replace my L-jet with a better system. not being a computer programer or super "tuner"..... so im trying to figure out what one to get.
1. Carls set up.....
2. LH set up from a later car...
3.Mega squirt.
it seams the LH set up might be the easy way to go, but would i have any issues adapting it to a early car?
1. Carls set up.....
2. LH set up from a later car...
3.Mega squirt.
it seams the LH set up might be the easy way to go, but would i have any issues adapting it to a early car?
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The LH is a dated system and while it was great for its time.
I am a huge fan of the standalone systems.
I vote for option #3 as it is a very good option. Simple can be done very cleanly.
Attached are some photos of a 4.7L NA that I converted to MSII V 3.57 W/ EDIS-8.
The car has been running for more than a year now and fires right up, and is very interesting to drive. I had to pull some advance out of it off idle and mid range so that you could actually drive it! Otherwise you would give it gas and the back end would just step out!
Car has passed our local emissions testing 2 years in a row, first one I adjusted it with a gas analyzer I have. Second year, not a change made.
Depending on the SCer used, you could do the same intake etc. and shorten all of your plumbing. Though an IC might be harder to place.
I am a huge fan of the standalone systems.
I vote for option #3 as it is a very good option. Simple can be done very cleanly.
Attached are some photos of a 4.7L NA that I converted to MSII V 3.57 W/ EDIS-8.
The car has been running for more than a year now and fires right up, and is very interesting to drive. I had to pull some advance out of it off idle and mid range so that you could actually drive it! Otherwise you would give it gas and the back end would just step out!
Car has passed our local emissions testing 2 years in a row, first one I adjusted it with a gas analyzer I have. Second year, not a change made.
Depending on the SCer used, you could do the same intake etc. and shorten all of your plumbing. Though an IC might be harder to place.
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so i have decided to build up a 4.7 euro motor, then SC the thing. but id like to replace my L-jet with a better system. not being a computer programer or super "tuner"..... so im trying to figure out what one to get.
1. Carls set up.....
2. LH set up from a later car...
3.Mega squirt.
it seams the LH set up might be the easy way to go, but would i have any issues adapting it to a early car?
1. Carls set up.....
2. LH set up from a later car...
3.Mega squirt.
it seams the LH set up might be the easy way to go, but would i have any issues adapting it to a early car?
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From: Abbotsford B.C.
Ducman,
I used a Ford TB which I was able to get the stock mating piece to easily come with it, so that I could weld that onto the intake plenum.
I am seriously considering converting my car to VEMS with COP or CNP
I used a Ford TB which I was able to get the stock mating piece to easily come with it, so that I could weld that onto the intake plenum.
I am seriously considering converting my car to VEMS with COP or CNP
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And, if you want the most flexibility, you could go with MS3, which, with a daughter board, would allow you to run fully sequential fuel injection, and coil on plug ignition. A wide-band O2 sensor should be mandatory for such a conversion, and will make tuning MS (at least the base fuel map) pretty easy.
The tougher things to tune are usually the dynamic items, like cold start, warmup curves, and acceleration enrichment.
Anyway, though, another vote for MS. Even something as simple as Microsquirt could work well.
The tougher things to tune are usually the dynamic items, like cold start, warmup curves, and acceleration enrichment.
Anyway, though, another vote for MS. Even something as simple as Microsquirt could work well.
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Colin,could you do a little more detail on your intake setup and did you try yo center the intake plenum and if not do you think it would be wurthwile? Very nice system, wish i had come up with it, been tring all kinds of things yours looks like the answer ,Best, Ray
The LH is a dated system and while it was great for its time.
I am a huge fan of the standalone systems.
I vote for option #3 as it is a very good option. Simple can be done very cleanly.
Attached are some photos of a 4.7L NA that I converted to MSII V 3.57 W/ EDIS-8.
The car has been running for more than a year now and fires right up, and is very interesting to drive. I had to pull some advance out of it off idle and mid range so that you could actually drive it! Otherwise you would give it gas and the back end would just step out!
Car has passed our local emissions testing 2 years in a row, first one I adjusted it with a gas analyzer I have. Second year, not a change made.
Depending on the SCer used, you could do the same intake etc. and shorten all of your plumbing. Though an IC might be harder to place.
I am a huge fan of the standalone systems.
I vote for option #3 as it is a very good option. Simple can be done very cleanly.
Attached are some photos of a 4.7L NA that I converted to MSII V 3.57 W/ EDIS-8.
The car has been running for more than a year now and fires right up, and is very interesting to drive. I had to pull some advance out of it off idle and mid range so that you could actually drive it! Otherwise you would give it gas and the back end would just step out!
Car has passed our local emissions testing 2 years in a row, first one I adjusted it with a gas analyzer I have. Second year, not a change made.
Depending on the SCer used, you could do the same intake etc. and shorten all of your plumbing. Though an IC might be harder to place.
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i think thats the route i will go this summer, is the MS3 sequential. first i have to get motor together, the the part collecting starts.
what are you guys with MS using for a trigger sensor?
what are you guys with MS using for a trigger sensor?
