928 Weissach rolls into my 911 house
05-01-2011, 07:01 PM
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Well, they did use the development money from VW for the 924. They wanted to try out the transaxle concept, and got VW to foot the bill for it. Then they 'piggybacked' the 928's concept on that...
Obviously it's a lot more refined, but if you squint you can see the connection
05-01-2011, 09:35 PM
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Paul--
Ridgecrest is the home of one of the most careful 928 owners around. Look fro posts by Dwayne, and find just excellent how-to's. You probably couldn't ask for a better neighbor, except he doesn't have any 16-valve cars (yet).
Enjoy your new toy, and welcome to the group!
Ridgecrest is the home of one of the most careful 928 owners around. Look fro posts by Dwayne, and find just excellent how-to's. You probably couldn't ask for a better neighbor, except he doesn't have any 16-valve cars (yet).
Enjoy your new toy, and welcome to the group!
05-01-2011, 09:44 PM
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Doc,
I know Dwayne. I called him the other nite, and he was on travel. I talked to his wife. SHe told me how ugly 911s are and how that the 928 is THE pillar of the Porsche company. The 911 was one of the mistakes that Porsche made in its development. No matter what view you look at its ugly. I begged to differ with her but her mind was pretty made up. I called to ask if they had one for sale and the answer was NO and HEC NO. They have SIX 928s. I thought maybe they had one for sale, but no. And all of them have names.
I know Dwayne. I called him the other nite, and he was on travel. I talked to his wife. SHe told me how ugly 911s are and how that the 928 is THE pillar of the Porsche company. The 911 was one of the mistakes that Porsche made in its development. No matter what view you look at its ugly. I begged to differ with her but her mind was pretty made up. I called to ask if they had one for sale and the answer was NO and HEC NO. They have SIX 928s. I thought maybe they had one for sale, but no. And all of them have names.
05-01-2011, 10:53 PM
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For the rear spoiler, window rubbers, vinyl interior bits, etc. I use 303 Aerospace Protectant - http://www.303products.com/ - it works just fine on the S4 rubberised wing.
It has no silicone, and provides UV protection too.
I spent a while looking for silicone-free UV resistant treatments for plastics and rubbers - the shortlist I had is these products (303 was the easiest to find locally).
Lexol Vinylex
Harley Polyguard
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303 Aerospace
It has no silicone, and provides UV protection too.
I spent a while looking for silicone-free UV resistant treatments for plastics and rubbers - the shortlist I had is these products (303 was the easiest to find locally).
Lexol Vinylex
Harley Polyguard
Meguairs #40
303 Aerospace
Congratulations on your purchase .... I hope you realise you won't be able to stop at one
05-01-2011, 11:33 PM
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Well, they did use the development money from VW for the 924. They wanted to try out the transaxle concept, and got VW to foot the bill for it. Then they 'piggybacked' the 928's concept on that...
Obviously it's a lot more refined, but if you squint you can see the connection
Obviously it's a lot more refined, but if you squint you can see the connection
05-01-2011, 11:35 PM
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Doc,
I know Dwayne. I called him the other nite, and he was on travel. I talked to his wife. SHe told me how ugly 911s are and how that the 928 is THE pillar of the Porsche company. The 911 was one of the mistakes that Porsche made in its development. No matter what view you look at its ugly. I begged to differ with her but her mind was pretty made up. I called to ask if they had one for sale and the answer was NO and HEC NO. They have SIX 928s. I thought maybe they had one for sale, but no. And all of them have names.
I know Dwayne. I called him the other nite, and he was on travel. I talked to his wife. SHe told me how ugly 911s are and how that the 928 is THE pillar of the Porsche company. The 911 was one of the mistakes that Porsche made in its development. No matter what view you look at its ugly. I begged to differ with her but her mind was pretty made up. I called to ask if they had one for sale and the answer was NO and HEC NO. They have SIX 928s. I thought maybe they had one for sale, but no. And all of them have names.
05-01-2011, 11:37 PM
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Great looking 928! The 928 and newer 911s are completly different animals. I have owned a few 996s and driven every 997...GT2, GT3, Turbo...The 928 has that special hand built feel that is lacking in newer Porsches, but having said that the newer Porsches are AMAZING. The new Porsches are sooo good at everything that you really need to be breaking some laws to have any real fun. I plan on keeping my 928 forever and having the newest 911 that I can afford...I'm also on the hunt for a nice 914 2.0.
05-01-2011, 11:46 PM
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Oooo. Beautiful car. Don't put in Windows 7 though. Replace your switches with Paul and Hans's switches and not only save some dough but customize your interior and light the switches at the same time.
Or get a Mac and then you don't need to worry about viruses coming in through those Windows.
Or get a Mac and then you don't need to worry about viruses coming in through those Windows.
05-07-2011, 11:14 PM
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Hi Paul,
CONGRATULATIONS on acquiring the Weissach! I enjoy the 928 VERY Much and as you may have noticed, my wife has taken a liking to them as well. I hope you have many enjoyable miles in the 928!
Sorry about the schedule....Work has been eating into my 928 time lately and it doesn't look like it will let up for several weeks - look forward to seeing it sometime soon!
CONGRATULATIONS on acquiring the Weissach! I enjoy the 928 VERY Much and as you may have noticed, my wife has taken a liking to them as well. I hope you have many enjoyable miles in the 928!
Sorry about the schedule....Work has been eating into my 928 time lately and it doesn't look like it will let up for several weeks - look forward to seeing it sometime soon!
05-07-2011, 11:38 PM
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Jim, I was thinking the EXACT same thing when I read this. In fact I had a job interview on Friday (yesterday and I thought it went very well) and at the end we got to talking about cars and one of the managers said how he thought the current (and previous one if not two) 911's were far more like a 928 than they were like the original 911 and I told him that was an EXCELLENT and quite correct observation.
Of course the one things 911's DON'T have and NEVER WILL have is the PURE Porsche development history! The 928 was conceived and built from scratch by Porsche FOR Porsche. The 911 has its roots squarely in the 356 and it is an offspring of the VW Beetle! The 928 is more of a TRUE PORSCHE than ANY OTHER Porsche (save most of the race cars of course and I suppose the CGT as well).
Oldguy, you got a winner there! Enjoy it! BTW, if Porsche had continued to develop the 928 it would probably have nearly 600HP today and cost between $150k and $250k! OUCH! When the PanAm was in early development and folks started speculating on the 2 door version (928 successor they would often say) the speculation was the car would be set to go head to head with the 599! CHA-CHING!
Of course the one things 911's DON'T have and NEVER WILL have is the PURE Porsche development history! The 928 was conceived and built from scratch by Porsche FOR Porsche. The 911 has its roots squarely in the 356 and it is an offspring of the VW Beetle! The 928 is more of a TRUE PORSCHE than ANY OTHER Porsche (save most of the race cars of course and I suppose the CGT as well).
Oldguy, you got a winner there! Enjoy it! BTW, if Porsche had continued to develop the 928 it would probably have nearly 600HP today and cost between $150k and $250k! OUCH! When the PanAm was in early development and folks started speculating on the 2 door version (928 successor they would often say) the speculation was the car would be set to go head to head with the 599! CHA-CHING!
Wasn't Porsche the one who designed the Beetle?
And wasn't the first prototypes actually named Porsche before the name was changed to VW meaning "peoples car" by Hitler?
This whole thing about 928 being a clean sheet design doesn't make sense.
05-07-2011, 11:44 PM
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A car that is thought up out of the blue that has never been done by that manufacturer before is a clean sheet design. I hope that helps you make sense of the statement.
And YES Dr. Porsche was integral in designing the Beetle. I am NOT SAYING the 911 isn't a wonderful car. I am just saying it has its roots (and many parts in the beginning, including the basic lay out) in the Beetle and the 356. Porsche had done nothing like the 928 when it was designed because its design preceded the 924 by a couple of years.
05-08-2011, 12:03 AM
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James,
I just don't think it means anything when people say "the 911 came from a VW Beetle" while Porsche himself was heavily involved in the Beetles design.
I am not trying to pick on you buddy, I don't even have a 911, but I have seen many 928 owners use this statement to bring the 911 model down. I have been around VW Beetles for 15 years and any air cooled VW fanatic will tell you that the 911 or 356 models are everything that the VW is NOT no matter how much you modify your VW. Their just built a lot better while sharing similar design features.
I just don't think it means anything when people say "the 911 came from a VW Beetle" while Porsche himself was heavily involved in the Beetles design.
I am not trying to pick on you buddy, I don't even have a 911, but I have seen many 928 owners use this statement to bring the 911 model down. I have been around VW Beetles for 15 years and any air cooled VW fanatic will tell you that the 911 or 356 models are everything that the VW is NOT no matter how much you modify your VW. Their just built a lot better while sharing similar design features.
05-08-2011, 12:22 AM
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Ali,
Whatever man... The guy who designed BOTH the Beetle and the 911 (technically that is not even true as Dr. Porsche designed the Beetle and Butzi the 911, but I digress) and used the same layout and early on the same parts (in the case of the 356 mind you) and you can't see the lineage, man I just can't help you...
I LOVE the 911...Let me say that again so you can hear me Ali... I LOVE THE 911! The first Porsche I ever drove was a brand new '84 911 Cab! SO MUCH FUN! I am simply saying that the 928 was a new design for Porsche and it took no parts and no layout plans from any other design from the company...(ok, maybe there were some relay's or wheels along the way, so don't get technical with my boys, ok?! ;-) It was as if they took a clean (blank) sheet of paper and said, what can we do? What is the best we can make? Then, OUT CAME A 928! Hence CLEAN SHEET OF PAPER DESIGN... Some do use that argument to denigrate the 911, I did not use or mean it that way.
Whatever man... The guy who designed BOTH the Beetle and the 911 (technically that is not even true as Dr. Porsche designed the Beetle and Butzi the 911, but I digress) and used the same layout and early on the same parts (in the case of the 356 mind you) and you can't see the lineage, man I just can't help you...
I LOVE the 911...Let me say that again so you can hear me Ali... I LOVE THE 911! The first Porsche I ever drove was a brand new '84 911 Cab! SO MUCH FUN! I am simply saying that the 928 was a new design for Porsche and it took no parts and no layout plans from any other design from the company...(ok, maybe there were some relay's or wheels along the way, so don't get technical with my boys, ok?! ;-) It was as if they took a clean (blank) sheet of paper and said, what can we do? What is the best we can make? Then, OUT CAME A 928! Hence CLEAN SHEET OF PAPER DESIGN... Some do use that argument to denigrate the 911, I did not use or mean it that way.
05-08-2011, 12:39 AM
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Three Wheelin'
I was not asking for help...
I did not mean that I don't see the lineage, never said that. What I am saying is linking both models in order to "bash" one is meaning less given their history.
I did not mean that I don't see the lineage, never said that. What I am saying is linking both models in order to "bash" one is meaning less given their history.