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Old 04-13-2011 | 09:12 PM
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Never had any complaints in my 84 Euro S 4 speed auto. Plenty quick. Bottom line, just look for something after the 3 speed auto age and in your price range. So that narrows your choices down to 83-87-ish. Of course 5 speeds are always a good choice for any year.
Old 04-13-2011 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
The guys with the 1940s-1950s have no illusion about the level of performance. Perhaps the most super car aspect of the 1984 Porsche 928 was the nearly $40,000 window sticker. And the highest top speed 143 as I recall
Yea, and I think that was only slightly less expensive than a 308 and I think it might have been faster than the 308... That is where the "super car" thing comes from...

Again, by the standards of the day the 928 WAS a super car, there were what 2 cars made that were faster (at least in the US)...MAYBE... I think if you are in the top 2 or 5 fastest production cars in a given country then you can probably call yourself "super car" and be in good stead...
Old 04-13-2011 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SeanR
Don't listen to these guys.

1988 Blue cars are the fastest.
Originally Posted by Hilton
er.. Mcfly.. when did you last see a McDonalds with blue decor?

Everyone knows red is faster
Originally Posted by cpayne
You have obviously never raced an Black 87 as they are twice as fast as any other color.
How can you guys be so confused?! The fastest cars are white because the factory knows that all color in the paint would be sucked out on acceleration - no engineering reason to use pigment at all
Old 04-13-2011 | 10:07 PM
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Wow I guess my XKE Jags were "super cars" maybe even the XK150
Old 04-13-2011 | 10:20 PM
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Jim,

The car that kind of started the whole "super car" thing was the Miura, so I don't think the phrase existed at the time of the E Type (at least not when it first came out anyway) and certainly not during the time of the 150, but I'd give you both of those cars as SUPER CARS my friend!
Old 04-13-2011 | 10:44 PM
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quattro123 I here you loud and clear. Just sticking up for the little guy!

928's are just awesome in my book. The sound of a 16v is awesome. The interior of a S4 is so sweet. The OB's feel like a go cart and the 32v 5.0L have monster potential!

Pick your flavor. They are all amazing. 4.5L,4.7L or 5.0L! You will not be disapointed!

I am a firm believer that the right car and model will find it's way to you! It will come. The forum is almost as cool as the car!
Old 04-13-2011 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
The 76 Corvette and an 84 USA 928 both have nearly identical 1/4 times at 15.4 and very similar torque. Many with the early 928 do not engage in uncivilized street "races" but adopt the look and attitude that most cars are not worthy and wave them off.......harsh reality is you will have trouble running with a 944S if there are any twisty bits at all. The nearly 100 HP bump to the S-4 gets you up to the level of a new V-6 Mustang.
Your specs were for the "Hot" L-82 with 200hp. The 76 I had was the L-48 with a wheezing 168Hp. Mine couldn't run but a 16.7@ 80mph at Milan a few years back. This car was in perfect condition with only 22,000 miles. 129hp on the rollers

But people still thought they were fast! I had a 78 WS-6 Special Edition Tran-Am that would kill that pile but it too was a pig at a mere 250hp. It had a 10 grand tach and the 160mph speedo, I wish I would have kept that car, One sold at BJ last year for 45K and mine was nicer! They only made about 250 of them optioned like mine w/o the t-tops and with a black crushed velor interior.

I've never even seen a 944 so I'm pretty sure I won't run into one. You have to remember, I'm about 25 miles from Detroit, this is Motown, we don't have Porsche's around here. Not many anyway.
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At absolute minimum, will all 928's out-perform a 85 Z-28 with a 305 and 135hp? God I hope so, or I'm just gonna give up! Will an auto break the tires loose on a holeshot, or are they geared too high? (numerically low)

I have a snottly LS1 that I built for my last 02 T/A project, maybe I'll have to find a 928 with a bad motor? LOL

Here comes the hatred! Tee Hee...
Old 04-14-2011 | 12:28 AM
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You really do need to test drive a couple 928s I can not help but think of the kid who had a poster of a hot female rocker on his bedroom wall for a few years and imagined all kinds of things....probably best that he never got a test ride......it could never live up to his imagination.
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A 4.5 auto will not break its rear tires loose unless they are in REALLY bad shape or it is really slick pavement. 4.7L might...from time to time again depending on tire/surface and an S4 or GTS auto are EASY to break loose. That said, these are NOT drift cars and don't like to be driven that way really. Get out on an open road and do a roll on race and wipe everyone one of the cars you mentioned out in a 4.5 auto! Roll on for 40 or 45 and you will be in the fat part of 1st gear, they will be mere specks in your rearview!
Old 04-14-2011 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pcar928fan
A 4.5 auto will not break its rear tires loose unless they are in REALLY bad shape or it is really slick pavement. 4.7L might...from time to time again depending on tire/surface
Sure they will!

Old 04-14-2011 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by martyp
How can you guys be so confused?! The fastest cars are white because the factory knows that all color in the paint would be sucked out on acceleration - no engineering reason to use pigment at all
Yes this is true but at very high speeds approaching the speed of light you see 928s revert to their true color. Black
Old 04-14-2011 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cpayne
Yes this is true but at very high speeds approaching the speed of light you see 928s revert to their true color. Black
Only in the dreams of the misinformed...
Case in point Tom M and I are convoying to Sharktoberfest, his "Black 89GT" and my Guards Red '86.5. With Tom leading the way we always get stuck in traffic, no good, but put mine in the lead and people see that Bitchin Fast color coming and get the hell outa the way, we made good time with RED leading the way...
(PS: No tickets were issued as we were protected by the Force (V1) lol)
Old 04-14-2011 | 12:43 PM
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Blues are so fast, they don't even see it pass them. The true stealth..
Old 04-14-2011 | 08:27 PM
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I have 265s on the rear of my 88 S4 (auto), and I do not think I can spin them in a straight-line launch on warm pavement. I can do donuts or drifting etc., but not usually a straight-line burnout. Meanwhile, my old 944 5-speed will burn rubber a-plenty from her 215s if I drop the clutch at all. Mind you, what the S4 will do, while *not* burning the rubber off the tires, is rocket forward a helluva lot faster than the 944. So, performance is relative to different things. Burning rubber is not necessarily as fun an experience as feeling that lumbar support pushing my back like a strong hand.

And on the subject of horsepower contests, it's true my wife's 2009 Kia Sedona minivan has 250 hp with a V6. I was, in truth, amazed by that when we bought it and its 5-speed automatic with a short 1st makes it almost as quick off the line as the 928. On the other hand, the S4 with its RMB sounds like a brute, while the Kia sounds literally like a sewing machine, it is hilarious.

Occasionally I'll run across someone with a hot new car who will boast about how their Dodge or whatever will blow off my Porsche. My usual response is to ask what model year is their car, and are they really proud to be able to beat a vintage car?? These kinds of contests are not really the point, and we all know the strength of the 928 lies in the total package. I can't even imagine hitting 100 mph in our Kia minivan, that would just be crazy from all angles. It would probably take 1000 yards to stop after the brakes melted.

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