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Stock on 85/86 32v is 24Lb

UncleMaz

I think these will work too:

Bosch 0280150965
See also Mitusbishi Eclipse 2.0 Turbo 1995-97
Part number: Mopar part #M04669011

Specs:

Injector type: Saturated
Fuel Nozzle: 4-hole disc
Injector Body Design: Metal and composite plastic
Flow rate: 24lbs/hr (250cc/min) at 43.5 psi
Electrical connector type: Jetronic
Length: 3 inches, 74 mm
Diameter: 24 mm
Viton o-rings: Top and bottom, 14.5 mm
Resistance: 14 Ohms

simos

Following Gen III Ford Racing injector set is NLA, has anyone found replacement for this? There are some Volvo sets of 5 or 6 availabe, but no sets of 8.

Design III 30lb:
Bosch p/n 0 280 155 759 (aka Ford Racing p/n M-9593-BB302)

thanx

Hilton

That's very cool, I didn't realise the volvo ones were the same part. Good as the full specs (low/hi slope, pulse width, voltage offset etc.) are available online.

edit: here's the specs document on fordracing.com: https://www.fordracingparts.com/part...9593-bb302.pdf

There's a couple of sets of 8 on ebay.

Linkey one
Linkey 2

Alternatively, you can send a question to a seller of the volvo sets asking if you can buy 8 - I bought 16 volvo ones a while back, the seller just put up an ebay buy-it-now for 16 injectors in one go.

simos

Thanks Hilton,

The Ford Racing p/n M-9593-BB302 is NLA, but not Bosch p/n 0 280 155 759.
Various Volvo models and other cars are still using it. There are new models of 30LB Bosch injector with EV1(Jetronic) and EV6(USCAR) connectors,
but currently the price is slightly higher. Those also have new Ford pn. (Bosch 0280158227-30-EV1, 0280158227-30-EV6).
Check the dimensions for fitment first!!!! Seller is referencing these to 0280155759.


Got 8 set of 0280155759 from ebay at price of $189.99.
Seller: CS Performance Injectors.
No affiliation whatsoever.

SMTCapeCod

I had to go back and hunt down what I installed in mine a couple summers ago...

To add some complexity, adapters for the different plugs are available:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/mustan...speed=noscript

Doing some homework on current- best option for my S3. I notice five-o lists the same part number previously referenced as both 23lb and 24 lb.

Chris, was yours in fact running rich? Would seem like that deviation would be within adjustment range of O2 sensor/LH?

MattiasH

I'm looking for some 24lb/min injectors now when I will put one of PorKen's chip-sets in my S4. I have looked through this thread and started searching after 24lb Design III injectors and found the injectors in the link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRE-24LB-HR-...b0ad07&vxp=mtr

Does anyone have experience of TRE injectors? They look to have the right slot for the fuel rail clips. One thing I noticed was that the resistance is a bit lower on these injectors. 12 Ohms compared to about 14 Ohms for the Bosch 0280156013 injectors. What difference does this make? Will they work on my car?

Thanks,
Mattias

Hilton

No idea on the TRE ones. No part numbers on them makes me think they're cheap chinese copies but I could be wrong.

Looks like good Bosch injector supplies are drying up - I got lucky and picked up some of the Bosch-made Ford Motorsport 24lb ones a few months ago, but looks like they're abandoning the market to Denso etc.? At least Denso are a Ford OEM, so still better than TRE imo.

Looks like injectors are a barrier to entry with Ken's chips - maybe he should consider remapping his chips to work with ones which are still commonly available (and cheaper)? e.g. the Volvo/Ford motorsport 32lb ones: 0 280 155 759 aka M-9593-BB302. (I just bought 16 of these recently - they're common as they're found in Volvo turbo S70's)

Mongo

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-9593-lu24a

Here are some 24 lb injectors that are Ford. Part No. M-9593-LU24A

Will these fit 928s? I think the seals just need to be changed IIRC.

Hilton

They don't have the groove for the 32V retainer clips, and they have the wrong connector. You could probably cut a groove with a hacksaw, and buy some ev1-ev6 adapters tho.

Better pics here:

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-e...injectors.html

Billy Idle

Found these from Five0 today, as I'm in the midst of an Intake R&R. They look to be plug and play... is anyone using them?
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/bosch-porsche-928

88 S4 Venetian Blue 5MT LSD

PC-85-928S

are these a direct drop in replacement on an 85?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/24LB-FUEL-IN...50e622&vxp=mtr

Hilton

They'll run a bit lean - stock S3 are 0 280 150 706 and flow 24.7lb/hr at 3bar.

These 0 280 150 965 ones from a chyrsler will flow 22.8lb/hr at 3bar.

SMTCapeCod

By run a bit lean I take it you mean that the computer will push up the opening duration and duty cycling to bridge the slight gap in rated flow in normal lambda controlled operation.- Or do you/we know that they would actually run lean at WOT when the 02 signal is ignored? If so, could that be corrected out by readjusting the baseline setting on the MAF?

Hilton

No idea on the range of adjustment, but at WOT or high-load, when the O2 loop is ignored, they would provide less fuel than the stock S3 injectors.

From a vague memory of reading Ken's LH2.2 threads, the S3 brain doesn't have a stored adaptation like the S4 does - only an O2 adjust for immediate fuelling correction in closed-loop? But I may be wrong. I also don't know what the MAF adjustment on an LH2.2 does - is it the same as a non-cat S4 with the adjustment potentiometer? (i.e. adds a fixed pulse-width amount related to the resistance?)

The only people I'd say are qualified to say whether they would work are John Speake or Porken.