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Old 03-15-2011, 09:13 PM
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I currently own a 1982 Guards Red 928S with about 116k miles. It's a great car, and I really love it. I bought it about a year ago in strong mechanical condition, with a new clutch etc. I replaced the Ignition Module and am currently replacing the Alternator. However, it needs a new paint job, and the interior needs work. I took everything out of the interior except for the dash, steering wheel, gauges and seat.

What I have decided I want for my official 928, is a Black exterior, with the Black and Tan Interior. Here is an example: http://www.carpictures.com/photo/viewer/04AGF325951378F. Although I would prefer the S, and a Manual.

What do you guys think I should do?

I'm pretty sure selling the car without the new paint job would ultimately not get it sold good.
Do you guys think I should repaint the car, and finish the interior, and whatever else needs to be done, and then find a 928 that matches what I want

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Repaint the current 928 Black, and install and Black and Tan interior?

Any other advice, or options I should think of?
Old 03-15-2011, 09:16 PM
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Make it like you want it. In the end, thats what matters
Old 03-15-2011, 09:22 PM
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I'm not a fan of color changing, there's always some evidence of the original color somewhere, unless you go ALL the way and strip the snot out of the chassis first. I think if I was going to go that route I'd choose a color different than black - there are quite a few out there already.

I like the interior refresh though.
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If you are doing the work anyway, and intend to keep the car forever, then nothing should stop you from making it the way you want.

It would probably be easier to sell for more money, if you'd restore it to original condition, though.
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If you want another, ante-up for it.

But don't expect the 82 to provide any kind of meaningful funding towards it.
Old 03-15-2011, 09:48 PM
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If you change the color it will have an adverse effect on the value. If you are going to keep it then the color change makes not much difference.

I suggest that you simply sell it the way it is for whatever you can get out of it, because anything you put into it now will be mostly money lost in the resale. Sell it the way it is and then buy one that is much closer to what you want to have. Even then, you can get a nice black car and perhaps put a new interior in it that pleases you, but will not affect the resale value so much as changing the body color.

I changed the interior color of my red 87 S4 from black to tan and it looks really great. The car is still red (and needs a repaint) but the interior is now tan/black in full leather. Such an interior might cost you about $6000, but if you are going to live with it for some time it will be worth it.

You are close enough that I could put you in touch with my trim guy if you are interested.

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The car is non-running and stripped of interior.
New color won't affect its value negatively at all.
Old 03-15-2011, 11:08 PM
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+ 1 on what everyone else has said.
Don't waste your money, a $500 respray at Earl Schieb or Maaco would be an improvement!
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I would never change anything, especially the color. (Do what you want) T
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Say I go get a $2,000 paint job, finish the interior, get it in good running condition, new tires, what do you think I would be looking at in range for sale?
This is also the Competition Package with the Sport seats. 116k miles.
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If you are lucky you will get back what you put it to it, and maybe if you are very lucky you will get $4k. I bought a near perfect mechanically, needed a paint job and interior, 84 euro S for $1100, and put about 3k into it and gave it to my daughter. Then I bought a 86 for 3k that only needed a timing belt and water punp and spent 2k on 'stuff".
Don't expect to get a big ROI on your investment. I own a from new 81 that is close to about a 8 out of 10, and it probably would not get $6k if i sold it!
see my avatar for pics....
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I think there is some chance that it will be worth no more than it is now and maybe even less. For sure, it will not be worth what it is now the way it is plus whatever you pay for the paint and interior. Just my opinion!!!

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Originally Posted by Jakkq
Say I go get a $2,000 paint job, finish the interior, get it in good running condition, new tires, what do you think I would be looking at in range for sale?
This is also the Competition Package with the Sport seats. 116k miles.
The fact that its an enthusiast-favorable model means nothing because it was neglected. Only true restoration will counteract that fact.

Unless you find an uninformed buyer, and "take" them, it will not bring what you have in it, especially as you put more $ into it.

Slap it back together, get it running finally, and drive the heck out if it on those Nebraska roadways.

Perfect utility 928 for those conditions out there.

If you want another prettier one, build yourself a stack of cash about $4K-$5K tall. And wait patiently. As we hit sustained gas prices of $5 they will come out of the woodwork.
Old 03-16-2011, 09:31 AM
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Strip it and have yourself a track car, and buy what you want.

Sounds like you are going to take a hit either way.

Who cars about a Euro. What I mean by that is you have a competition package 928, you are only shy a few HP. Paint it the way you like, do the interior, and add headers, cam, topend stuff or just add some boost and you will be ahead of the game power wise.

We have these cars because we love them, not to make money on. If you do the paint, interior and some performance mods she will be a part of you when she is done. If you have time you can do it yourself. I painted my car and had never painted a car before. Spent less than 700 bucks on material and a LOT of labor. I get compliments all the time on how she looks and it feels great to say I did it! Took me about a month and still drove it everyday to work!

Keep plugging ahead and make what you want! There are people here that have Rods in their engine that cost them more than your car is worth. They won't see that investment back but they will have years of smiles on their face and that is priceless!
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IMHO. You must be an enthusiast to own one of these cars. Most cars are not valuable and decline in price rapidly after first purchased. In order to compensate for such insanity and poor financial management practices we must derive some pleasure from looking at, driving, racing, or repairing cars.
Our significant others that are not into it would say that "enthusiast" is nicer than saying we are obsessed or insane.
I like the way my 928 looks, drives and sounds. I also like the fact that it is mine for under $11,000 including repairs and mods and looks as good as most cars produced today. It may be worth more or less, but why worry about it.

There are tests to determine your enthusiasm for this breed that have been posted many times.
Test 1:
When you park it and walk away , do you find yourself looking back at it and smiling inside.
If you go to visit it in the garage when its in repair mode.
If your on rennlist allot.
If when it breaks, you Say Hmmmmm! now what could be wrong here versus saying Mother F#$@^# Son of B%$# and putting a for sale sign on it.
Get it running and make it your over time.


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