How would a 928 do at NASCAR
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Brad, everyone knows that the 928 was DOA as a NASCAR candidate because it's not a sedan. And I can't understand how you missed the factory's short foray into NASCAR with the Panamera in 2009. Unfortunately, the Panny effort was canned was that its profile didn't fit within the scrutineering templates required for the CoT, and the Porsche faithful were apoplectic about the plan to do a Chevy R7 motor swap.
But it would have been pretty fine coming out of Turn 1, 3 abreast at Talladega:
But it would have been pretty fine coming out of Turn 1, 3 abreast at Talladega:
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Stock configuration? Please explain how that would work when your typical cup car will lap most ovals close to, if not above 200mph.
There is a lot more to going 200mph for 500 miles than a car capable of traveling 200mph. Someone more versed in chassis and suspension design can chime in here.
So to answer your question, horrible - not a chance unless one was modified to the level of the rest of the cars and then it would depend on which team / driver was behind the car.
Remember back in 1984 when a Chevy MonteCarlo "Stock Car" spanked the Löwenbräu Porsche 962 on a Winston Cup track.
There is a lot more to going 200mph for 500 miles than a car capable of traveling 200mph. Someone more versed in chassis and suspension design can chime in here.
So to answer your question, horrible - not a chance unless one was modified to the level of the rest of the cars and then it would depend on which team / driver was behind the car.
Remember back in 1984 when a Chevy MonteCarlo "Stock Car" spanked the Löwenbräu Porsche 962 on a Winston Cup track.
Of course it would have to be striped and a roll cage installed as well as lots of other mods.
I guess what bothers me the most are the smart a#$ comments and the lack of thought before saying things like what are you smoking.
I assume, because we have never met, this is by people that don't no and just like to shoot their mouth off.
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I just spent several days working on two old Nascar racecars. They will be "featured" on the show Car Warriors. One had significant damage to the right front suspension as a result of doing a barrel roll off a ramp for a TV pilot.....the only real body damage was to the rear spoiler which touched down while the car was upside down. both cars were fully tubeframe purpose built cars. The lower A-arms are huge use heavy duty truck ball joints three times the size of what you find on a car....They have NOTHING in common with a street car. As noted the current cars can make 850 HP and pull nearly 10,000 RPM Nascar rules deliberately screw up the aerodynamics to try to slow them down ! This thread is just another example that love is blind
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Also the 15 inch rims would not fit over the 928 brakes ........and NASCAR is North American Stock Car Racing.....none of them Foriegn cars are allowed. Toyota had to build a factory in the US and make a "special" pushrod engine (plus pay a lot of money) to get into truck racing then Sprint Cup. It will be interesting next year when they go with Fuel Injection for all the top level cars. You also need around $4,000,000 to run a single car for one season
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I guess what bothers me the most are the smart a#$ comments and the lack of thought before saying things like what are you smoking.
I assume, because we have never met, this is by people that don't no and just like to shoot their mouth off.
Rennlist strikes again.
Some of You guys really need to grow up.
I assume, because we have never met, this is by people that don't no and just like to shoot their mouth off.
Rennlist strikes again.
Some of You guys really need to grow up.
Cubic dollars over cubic inches over aerodynamics. That, and having to have a homologated model for sale to the general public built in America, would've always ruled the 928 out. Common sense.
My response of 'what are you smoking' would be no different than responding to a 13-year old poster on a weapons forum theorizing about creating a functional light saber.
Just ain't gonna happen... ever.
The unwashed masses of toothless wonders that watch NASCAR and think "Man, I could race too" also haven't thought about the realities of that competitive form of entertainment either.
I'm from North Carolina and don't watch NASCAR (North And South Carolina Association of Retards) because I have exceeded the brain cell limit for inclusion.
BTW, in 1988 the Porsche 928S4 was faster than a Lamborghini Countach on a NASCAR Super Speedway at 1/3 the price. But, the Lambo wouldn't have been competitive in NASCAR either. Go figure.
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The one I was watching was not the super car so they were topping out at 180 mph and going past 7000 rpm at 175, That is why I said that the 928 would not be far behind in stock configuration.
Of course it would have to be striped and a roll cage installed as well as lots of other mods.
I guess what bothers me the most are the smart a#$ comments and the lack of thought before saying things like what are you smoking.
I assume, because we have never met, this is by people that don't no and just like to shoot their mouth off.
Rennlist strikes again.
Some of You guys really need to grow up.
Of course it would have to be striped and a roll cage installed as well as lots of other mods.
I guess what bothers me the most are the smart a#$ comments and the lack of thought before saying things like what are you smoking.
I assume, because we have never met, this is by people that don't no and just like to shoot their mouth off.
Rennlist strikes again.
Some of You guys really need to grow up.
That's assuming a 928 could even reach that speed on whatever track you were watching. Take one of the 1/2 or 3/4 mile ovals it would be a massacre even if you cut the HP on the stock car in half.
Last year at Road America the Nationwide cars were lapping in the 2:16 - 2:17 range in testing. That's in the ballpark of Mark Anderson's lap record and I think he would be the first to tell you neither him or the car would be able to maintain anywhere near that pace in a 400 mile race around RA.
You asked about comparing a full blown, 700hp race car to a 30 year old street car. Sorry, but to most people it is kind of an asinine question.
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What's really alarming is the thought that a motor that has to survive a 3.5 hour, 500-mile torture test somehow equates to it being reliable. And, the next race gets a new motor.
Take my motor and tranny that have never been cracked open at 23 years old and over 200,000 miles... that is reliablility.
But, to each their own definition of reliability.
Indeed.
Brad, read that article from Excellence Magazine posted above. It is chock full of 'intelligence-lacking' innuendos from the very beginning article category "Schwindle" (a con, ploy, scheme, scam) and the 'redneck nicknames' of the contributors "Mack" & "Skeeter" to how the "Porsche mirror design" being the 'winning edge' and the "Frying Gizzards Motorsports" team running in NASCAR.
That article has some of the best tongue-in-cheek smart a$$ comments on the 'NASCAR lifestyle' I have ever read!
Priceless!
Take my motor and tranny that have never been cracked open at 23 years old and over 200,000 miles... that is reliablility.
But, to each their own definition of reliability.
Indeed.
Brad, read that article from Excellence Magazine posted above. It is chock full of 'intelligence-lacking' innuendos from the very beginning article category "Schwindle" (a con, ploy, scheme, scam) and the 'redneck nicknames' of the contributors "Mack" & "Skeeter" to how the "Porsche mirror design" being the 'winning edge' and the "Frying Gizzards Motorsports" team running in NASCAR.
That article has some of the best tongue-in-cheek smart a$$ comments on the 'NASCAR lifestyle' I have ever read!
Priceless!
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What's really alarming is the thought that a motor that has to survive a 3.5 hour, 500-mile torture test somehow equates to it being reliable.
Take my motor and tranny that have never been cracked open at 23 years old and over 200,000 miles... that is reliablility.
But, to each their own definition of reliability.
Take my motor and tranny that have never been cracked open at 23 years old and over 200,000 miles... that is reliablility.
But, to each their own definition of reliability.
The motors that amaze me are the Fuel motors, that they can last mere seconds is beyond my understanding.
Over a thousand HP/Cylinder, running on what amounts to liquid dynamite, is something every gear head needs to feel at least once.
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It should be a little embarrassing for Porsche that the 928 could not drive an oval at top speed for prolonged periods of time. Even a lowly SAAB could do it, and with a forced-induced 85hp/liter engine instead of a sleepy NA 63hp/liter. Claiming that the 928 was not designed for racing is truly a pathetic excuse for a car company with Porsche's racing heritage and auto lineup at the time. I find it humorous that this discussion started, since the 928 would probably blow up a rod bearing in short order under such conditions.
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IIRC SAAB took a 900, 900 Turbo, 9000 and a 9000 Turbo to Taladega and ran them flat out for 24 hours, set some kind of record, they only stopped for fuel and driver changes.
It should be a little embarrassing for Porsche that the 928 could not drive an oval at top speed for prolonged periods of time. Even a lowly SAAB could do it, and with a forced-induced 85hp/liter engine instead of a sleepy NA 63hp/liter. I find it humorous that this discussion started, since the 928 would probably blow up a rod bearing in short order under such conditions.
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