Turbo kit for $449?? on the Bay
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Turbo kit for $449?? on the Bay
Anyone seen, or know anything about this kit? Just perusing Ebay and came along it. Just a new turbo would be that price and more. It seems hard to believe as it also comes with an intercooler. Doesn't come with install manual and does not say for what years. Enjoy!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...item5196a0b96c
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...item5196a0b96c
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I know nothing about it. But it seems to be missing a crucial component. Like Ikea. The exhaust manifold is a do it yourself job, evidently. And if that's really the case, then it's not a simple bolt on app.
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It's a few pieces set up to suck you into all the rest of the pieces you'll need. For those that follow the Herr K or Green Bay turbo projects, safe to say that the pieces usable from this kit might be the turbo itself, and use ome of the clamps. The Buy price should be considered the down-payment at best. I'm not current with what a hybrid T3/T4 turbine compressor is, but from my foggy memory it would take a couple T3's to get the claimed HP from a 5L 928. With 25 PSI of boost claimed in the listing, the car should be making a damn site more than what they say it will. And that itty bitty intercooler will be good for keeping your feet warm in the winter, even though it only has "2% pressure drop". Amazing claim for what must be truly amazing technology.
Good luck with the bidding!
Good luck with the bidding!
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There is no bidding, it's a Buy It Now.
5-10psi should give the 50-100hp as they state. 25+ was for a built motor. Just shocked by the price for everything they say is included. Could be a scam but they've done 7,825 closed auctions with a 99.2% feedback.
Looks as if they include what's needed as base equipment and then you would need to fab some parts up
"Most of these parts are direct bolt-ons. Some are not.
The piping needs to be fitted up. Because of the bends and couplers included, it should be simple.
The T3 turbo flange needs to be welded to an adapter pipe or directly to the stock manifold.
To run this on a street car, the turbocharger down pipe will need to be connected to your existing exhaust. Expect to fabricate an adapter pipe or have an exhaust shop connect them. "
Someone who like to live on the edge needs to check this out
5-10psi should give the 50-100hp as they state. 25+ was for a built motor. Just shocked by the price for everything they say is included. Could be a scam but they've done 7,825 closed auctions with a 99.2% feedback.
Looks as if they include what's needed as base equipment and then you would need to fab some parts up
"Most of these parts are direct bolt-ons. Some are not.
The piping needs to be fitted up. Because of the bends and couplers included, it should be simple.
The T3 turbo flange needs to be welded to an adapter pipe or directly to the stock manifold.
To run this on a street car, the turbocharger down pipe will need to be connected to your existing exhaust. Expect to fabricate an adapter pipe or have an exhaust shop connect them. "
Someone who like to live on the edge needs to check this out
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Friend bought something like that just for the heck of it. Could even be exact same kit. He was interested to see if parts are any good. They aren't that bad looking but we would not put that Chinese copy turbo to anything which has expensive engine like 928. Hoses, clamp etc seem usable and he already sold turbo for cheap NA 944 to turbo conversion project.
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you would spend a lot of time and money making it fit on a 928, but when completed it probably would achieve the improvement suggested ie 50-100hp at 5 psi.
Hell ! I reckon i could fit it in there, fabricate a new exhaust manifold for the RH bank, run a crossover pipe from the left exhaust manifold to the rear of the right one and have the front of the new right hand manifold mount the turbo, remove the air pump and have the dump pipe from the turbo pass back along side the engine on the right hand side. Esentially the same as my right hand side but with both banks flowing through the turbo, easy! oil drain goes into the oil fill tube, oil supply from around the gauge area somewhere, dead easy.
The more I think about it the easier it gets !
Pity I've already got one!
Nobody tell Gunar, he would have it fitted by next weekend!
Cheers Roy
Hell ! I reckon i could fit it in there, fabricate a new exhaust manifold for the RH bank, run a crossover pipe from the left exhaust manifold to the rear of the right one and have the front of the new right hand manifold mount the turbo, remove the air pump and have the dump pipe from the turbo pass back along side the engine on the right hand side. Esentially the same as my right hand side but with both banks flowing through the turbo, easy! oil drain goes into the oil fill tube, oil supply from around the gauge area somewhere, dead easy.
The more I think about it the easier it gets !
Pity I've already got one!
Nobody tell Gunar, he would have it fitted by next weekend!
Cheers Roy
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Evidently eWorld = Rochester, MI ???
Hey AO, can you do a drive by on your way home... I know it's a little bit north of you.
Apparently he also sell the infamous "O" pipe too
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mandr...item3cb5b2fa5b
Hey AO, can you do a drive by on your way home... I know it's a little bit north of you.
Apparently he also sell the infamous "O" pipe too
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mandr...item3cb5b2fa5b
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Evidently eWorld = Rochester, MI ???
Hey AO, can you do a drive by on your way home... I know it's a little bit north of you.
Apparently he also sell the infamous "O" pipe too
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mandr...item3cb5b2fa5b
Hey AO, can you do a drive by on your way home... I know it's a little bit north of you.
Apparently he also sell the infamous "O" pipe too
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mandr...item3cb5b2fa5b
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It's crap. Stay away. That turbo is good for about 300hp. At that price it's a Chinese turbo, so not only is it small, but it's also junk. I've dealt with those "silicon" connectors as well. They also suck. The intercooler is probably decent, but those cost about $75.
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Friend bought something like that just for the heck of it. Could even be exact same kit. He was interested to see if parts are any good. They aren't that bad looking but we would not put that Chinese copy turbo to anything which has expensive engine like 928. Hoses, clamp etc seem usable and he already sold turbo for cheap NA 944 to turbo conversion project.
My Mitsubishi days were filled with helping friends from the Starquestclub forums fix their cars after they got a 'great deal on a t3/t4 hybrid' Some of the turbos seemed to be epoxyed together (not welded, epoxy!).
Also problems with unbalanced wheels, bad machining in the compressor / exducer housings, leaking wastegates, etc etc.. dont do it. A quality Turbo is important if you are going that route. Go with a Garrett or other Name brand
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FWIW - if you can get the brand from the guy, then determine how much a rebuild is for quality bearing & assembly at a reputable shop, you "may" be able to end up with a quality rebuilt unit for less than a more expensive Garrett or other Name Brand.
Some of the other pieces are usable, some not...meaning this is likely more of a $1000 kit for partial components and a good Turbo (after the rebuild).
That said - since the turbo is too small, it would seem better served to consider as a rear-mount and with a matching pair for twins to flow enough. But of course, now you'd be in more $$ for a second Turbo and complexity with setting up twins, unless you are very experienced with doing so.
So, this kit could work for a small V6 (or larger I-4) as a rear-mount single starting point, if the rebuild avenue is cost effective. There's just so many other pieces you'd need, that it isn't much of a starting point really.
Caveat Emptor!
Some of the other pieces are usable, some not...meaning this is likely more of a $1000 kit for partial components and a good Turbo (after the rebuild).
That said - since the turbo is too small, it would seem better served to consider as a rear-mount and with a matching pair for twins to flow enough. But of course, now you'd be in more $$ for a second Turbo and complexity with setting up twins, unless you are very experienced with doing so.
So, this kit could work for a small V6 (or larger I-4) as a rear-mount single starting point, if the rebuild avenue is cost effective. There's just so many other pieces you'd need, that it isn't much of a starting point really.
Caveat Emptor!
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I'll go further than other here have. I doubt there is a single item in the kit you could acutally use. They offer these things on ebay generically: they have one kit, they post of for 1000s of different car models. Usually they have zero thought or knowlege as to wheather or not the kit or any of its parts will work for each specific model. Building a turbo 928 is a $5K to $10K, 12+ month long project, and this kit puts you not one step down the path. On the other hand you can tell your friends 'Ive got a kit and I'm gonna turbo it', for under $500. That might be worth something.