Tire size confusion... 1989 S4
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OK! Off to shop tires in sizes:
Front: 235/40/18 and Rear: 275/30/18 and will try 10, 12 and 15 mm spacers to see which is the best fit. Tires I am looking at are Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110, had them before on my 2006 911 and 1990 300ZX TT and liked the combination of ride, wear and price.
Unless hear any dissenting advice!
THANKS GUYS! Can't wait to get it rolling and meet the locals in a week or so!
Front: 235/40/18 and Rear: 275/30/18 and will try 10, 12 and 15 mm spacers to see which is the best fit. Tires I am looking at are Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110, had them before on my 2006 911 and 1990 300ZX TT and liked the combination of ride, wear and price.
Unless hear any dissenting advice!
THANKS GUYS! Can't wait to get it rolling and meet the locals in a week or so!
'89 S4 GP White/Black
'76 912e Silver/Black
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Sheesh, as if it was all not confusing and scary enough.. Found tires (could not find any 275/30/18 at TireRack or discount tires so no choice but to go with 285/30/18 for the rear)... and the price?
$666
YIKES! Evil...
$666
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Consider also the height of the sidewall... in some cases -even if the car is level, the visual factor of 'baloon sized' front tires will throw it off.
The following matches for circumference and visual effect as follows (by color):
Front:
225/40/18 = 90mm of sidewall (7"-8" wide wheel)
235/40/18 = 94mm of sidewall (8"-8.5" wide wheel)
Rear:
275/30/18 = 82.5mm of sidewall
275/35/18 = 96.25mm of sidewall (10" wide wheel)
285/30/18 = 85.5mm of sidewall
285/35/18 = 99.75mm of sidewall
295/30/18 = 88.5mm of sidewall (11" wide wheel)
295/35/18 = 103.25mm of sidewall
305/30/18 = 91.5mm of sidewall (11"-11.5" wide wheel)
In general terms, you want the width of the wheel to closely match the width of the tire without being wider (unless you're building a JDM ricer with wide wheels and narrow tires).
The 928 already has a nose-high ride level at factory specs -taller front tires will only magnify that visual disproportion.
The following matches for circumference and visual effect as follows (by color):
Front:
225/40/18 = 90mm of sidewall (7"-8" wide wheel)
235/40/18 = 94mm of sidewall (8"-8.5" wide wheel)
Rear:
275/30/18 = 82.5mm of sidewall
275/35/18 = 96.25mm of sidewall (10" wide wheel)
285/30/18 = 85.5mm of sidewall
285/35/18 = 99.75mm of sidewall
295/30/18 = 88.5mm of sidewall (11" wide wheel)
295/35/18 = 103.25mm of sidewall
305/30/18 = 91.5mm of sidewall (11"-11.5" wide wheel)
In general terms, you want the width of the wheel to closely match the width of the tire without being wider (unless you're building a JDM ricer with wide wheels and narrow tires).
The 928 already has a nose-high ride level at factory specs -taller front tires will only magnify that visual disproportion.
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A 285x30 will fit OK with a 60 offset and I suspect you will be OK even with a 65 offset.
I dare say the 225 will fit on a 7.5 inch rim but it is pushing it bit, I would have insisted on an 8 inch rim with 18 inch wheels. The 50mm front offset will fit OK and nicely fill the wheel well but I trust you appreciate that you will lose the negative scrub radius the steering was designed for. My experience of this is that on day to day driving you will not notice the difference but on a track you will probably lose out slightly compared to when your car is kitted with stock front wheels.
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I dare say the 225 will fit on a 7.5 inch rim but it is pushing it bit, I would have insisted on an 8 inch rim with 18 inch wheels. The 50mm front offset will fit OK and nicely fill the wheel well but I trust you appreciate that you will lose the negative scrub radius the steering was designed for. My experience of this is that on day to day driving you will not notice the difference but on a track you will probably lose out slightly compared to when your car is kitted with stock front wheels.
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A 285x30 will fit OK with a 60 offset and I suspect you will be OK even with a 65 offset.
I dare say the 225 will fit on a 7.5 inch rim but it is pushing it bit, I would have insisted on an 8 inch rim with 18 inch wheels. The 50mm front offset will fit OK and nicely fill the wheel well but I trust you appreciate that you will lose the negative scrub radius the steering was designed for. My experience of this is that on day to day driving you will not notice the difference but on a track you will probably lose out slightly compared to when your car is kitted with stock front wheels.
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Fred R
I dare say the 225 will fit on a 7.5 inch rim but it is pushing it bit, I would have insisted on an 8 inch rim with 18 inch wheels. The 50mm front offset will fit OK and nicely fill the wheel well but I trust you appreciate that you will lose the negative scrub radius the steering was designed for. My experience of this is that on day to day driving you will not notice the difference but on a track you will probably lose out slightly compared to when your car is kitted with stock front wheels.
Regards
Fred R
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After much help from many here and ESPECIALLY Andrew O's incredible spreadsheet wheel fitment calculator only had one more thing to solve..
S P A C E R S
Of course this brought up a whole other issue, removing hubs, having to replace wheel bearings, etc., etc. So, after a few hours searching found some threads on Pelican and here related to the exact same wheels I have (Porsche Sport Classic II's) and spacers. Lo and behold Porsche makes a spacer which does not require installing new studs. Called local Porsche store and amazingly they had a pair of 17MM ones in stock which according the Andrew's spreadsheet will work!
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Was lucky that one of the posts on Pelican even had a pic which included the part number! Picking them up tomorrow..
![](http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads17/2010+03+21+19+47+061269840951.jpg)
Many of you may already know of this solution but I did not so if duplicating something, apologies... I'm just happy to have found a solution which doesnt require a ton of work replacing the studs themselves!
Now of course paranoia is creeping in that someone here will post a reply saying NO NO NO!
S P A C E R S
Of course this brought up a whole other issue, removing hubs, having to replace wheel bearings, etc., etc. So, after a few hours searching found some threads on Pelican and here related to the exact same wheels I have (Porsche Sport Classic II's) and spacers. Lo and behold Porsche makes a spacer which does not require installing new studs. Called local Porsche store and amazingly they had a pair of 17MM ones in stock which according the Andrew's spreadsheet will work!
![burnout](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/burnout.gif)
Was lucky that one of the posts on Pelican even had a pic which included the part number! Picking them up tomorrow..
![](http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads17/2010+03+21+19+47+061269840951.jpg)
Many of you may already know of this solution but I did not so if duplicating something, apologies... I'm just happy to have found a solution which doesnt require a ton of work replacing the studs themselves!
Now of course paranoia is creeping in that someone here will post a reply saying NO NO NO!
![crying](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif)
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Hopefully Andrews wheel fitment calculator is on target since when I input in to the spacers field in the spreadsheet anything from 8 to 23 it calcualtes it fits. 17 is toward the other end and in the middle between the 15 and 20 mm others recommended here.
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Is your car lowered? If so - 235 will not work on the front as it will rub.
I run 235/40/18 front (with rubbing) and 278/35/18 rears (no rubbing and NO spacers) - Nitto NT01's
ATP Rivas - Dunno the offset
Found these on tire rack
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....um=735WR8DZ101
YMMV
I run 235/40/18 front (with rubbing) and 278/35/18 rears (no rubbing and NO spacers) - Nitto NT01's
ATP Rivas - Dunno the offset
Found these on tire rack
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....um=735WR8DZ101
YMMV