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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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86 S/C
With S/C disconnected and blowing in to the air direct up no stream interference to Maf.

From cold to warm these are the readings:

With a John Speak rebuild from my euro installed for testing I am finding the following:

Speak Maf: Car idle: wants to stall idle fluctuates from 0-1,200 have to feather gas for about 30-Seconds.
Cold start: Warm idle
A/F 10.7 13.1
Rpm 760 840
Maf-V 2.70 265
Maf From Pin 3 to 6 its at 315 Ohms Pin 3 to 5 4.1 Ohms

Modified Maf with two adjustments: Car starts right up idles great.
Cold start: Warm idle
A/F 14.7 15.1
Rpm 760 830
Maf-V 2.42 242
Maf From Pin 3 to 6 its at 427 Ohms Pin 3 to 5 4.1 Ohms


I had to adjust this Maf but now it seems lean under Wot I will test this later.
I am sure I can adjust it out.

Mt question is why does the Speak work fine on my 85 Euro but not on my 86 S/C and the Co adjustment is not at factory from the Speak Maf unit 316 Ohms.

I have my Idle screw all the way in and smoke tested and the only leaks are from the idle control valve. I found this leak on every one I tested and it is small.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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Could this be because of the chips I have installed?
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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If the MAF can be adjusted for idle CO of 1% when used with your stock Euro, then that pretty well rules that out as the problem. Have you tried a stock 85/86 LH EPROM with your s/c car (with s/c disconnected )?
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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No not yet; I can only believe that your Maf is correct although the readings of 315 Ohms was a little high but the Euro runs fine. With your Maf the car has all kinds of idle issues when cold so I am assuming I am adjusting out these issues with the adjustable Maf. I will install my stock chips tomorrow and see what happens, do I need to do both chips or just one?

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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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As far as idle CO is concerned, you only need to swap out the LH ECU chip.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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Thanks I'll try that tomorrow, if this corrects it should I keep out of boost until I get a good replacement?
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 05:45 AM
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You probably need to modify the car back towards a stock intake to see which of your mods are upsetting the MAF readings. Obviously no boost is part of that back tracking.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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All this testing was done with the S/C removed to make sure not to effect the base line operation.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Yes, understood, but you have a very different intake than stock, feeding air into the MAF.
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LH 928-618-123-04 24 pin chip 28 pin socket also 2 284-986-516
Lh chip stock 2287355631
on Lh board 228 832 1495-4 and 2 284 496 516

Johns Maf
Lm voltage at idle: 2.70
Lm voltage between pins 6&7 car not running 1.7 volts
10.2 A/F at start up cold
12.2 when warm

Johns has cold start issues but after 20-Seconds idles fine
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Is there an orientation for the Maf I believe the Co adj pot faces front DS is that true?
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Orientation of the MAF isn't critical. Is the filter and pipework into the MAF intake stock now ?
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The s/c piping is facing up into the air venting and not hitting the Maf.
I just have the Maf open to the air while testing, no air box or filter.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Can you restore the intake to the MAF as per stock ? This can make quite a difference to how the MAF behaves. The car was mapped with that intake, warts and all.....
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Well thats if I can find the box, I thought that was next
When and if I can put it on what should I be seeing for the readings?
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