Dave928S

Chris
My Euro 82S 5 Speed does use the XIV relay as pictured below with a red cross on it (It's a 40A relay). In my owners manual it lists XIV as ... Bridge (automatic gear box starter relay) and doesn't show a relay in the pic, but also doesn't show a bridge. Therefore it would seem that the auto has a bridge and the manual has a relay ... I wonder why.

gbgastowers

ok- I figured out that the pins have numbers next to them and I have the start bridge relay XIV jumpered 86 to 87. (I don't know how to read the diagrams on the sides of the relays very well) Now what do I jumper on the fuel pump relay(XVII) to get some fuel through the line for a flush? I have relay 92861511301 in there and it looks and smells good but the fuel pump is not coming on when I turn the key to ign. I have had the fuel pump working in the past by powering at the pump itself. It looks like the panel is a little brown behind this relay but no new damage.

gbgastowers

Does this relay have a Porsche part # on it? It looks like it's supposed to be 92861247300. Thanks for the great picture. That's just what I needed.

Landseer

Have you cleaned the fuse contacts?
They are sensitive to corrosion.
And the fuses can burn through and you can't see them, but only feel it.

Thanks Dave!

What this young man has done to transform this car is freaking amazing.
(pelican)
He has been using a lot of patience as it is almost ready to run.

gbgastowers

Do you have a wider angle pic that shows the whole panel? Gunar

gbgastowers

Thanks Chris- I have cleaned the panel some and checked wires behind it but have not taken it out and really detailed it. I have cleaned corrosion off all the fuse ends and holders.

Dave928S

I'll get one and a photo of the owners manual ... and I'll check the relay P/N for you.

Hilton

Andrew Olson's list of owners manuals hosted on google includes an '83 Euro S owners manual in PDF form. '83 was the same K-jet injection/engine as the '82 Euro S.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...al-online.html

gbgastowers

a picture is worth.. CE panel right now

gbgastowers

Thanks Hilton. That's great. I had it saved but forgot about it. Too much info saved and mixed up. Gunar

GlenL

It's the other way to stop an auto from being started in gear.

Do some manual 928s get a switch on the clutch pedal?

I'll post the pics to show why I valiantly went 0-40 in disagreements with Wally. Or did I?

WallyP

Dave,

"My Euro 82S 5 Speed does use the XIV relay as pictured below with a red cross on it (It's a 40A relay). In my owners manual it lists XIV as ... Bridge (automatic gear box starter relay) and doesn't show a relay in the pic, but also doesn't show a bridge. Therefore it would seem that the auto has a bridge and the manual has a relay ... I wonder why."

Perhaps easy to misunderstand this. Since you have a five-speed, your manual is in effect saying, "Your five speed has a bridge here, but the automatic gearbox has a starter relay."

All early automatics have a start relay, all early five-speeds have the bridge. Later, Porsche changed to a start relay on all cars. On those later cars, the relay coil on the automatics is grounded thru the park/neutral safety switch; on the five-speeds, the coil is hard-grounded.

gbgastowers

so what should the starter relay be jumpered on then? 30 to 87 turns starter immediately key in or not. What should it be jumpered to to only turn starter when key is turned to ignition cause nothing happens when ignition turned on 86 to 87. Gunar

Landseer

Remove the wire.
Take your voltmeter and check 86 to ground, without and with, ignition key.

Lets identify 86 that way.

30 is always hot.
86 is from the 15 bus according to the diagram above, so its hot only with key.

GlenL

I'll tell you what I recall...

The bridge for a 5spd is like an "L" or "T" where the two tangs are a right angle. Looking at the pics, it's gotta go as in the linked pictures you posted. Is that where it comes on immediately?

I'd run out and look but there's no 928 in the garage.