Timing Belt Waterpump and Cam Gear replacement GTS (Now Completed)
#16
Give me more...
It's function is to open and purge the stored vapor/liquid fuel from the charcoal canister.
Yes it comes from the charcoal canister but is the valve normal open or closed with it of the car I can blow freely in both directions whereas the valve has an arrow on it that shows from the canister to the filler neck and split to the throttle body
It is called the EVAP system on modern cars made here, and seem to be a constant source of check engine lights.
That is what smoke machines were originally made for, checking for leaks in the evap system.
On the gears, pretty much any time you can see any of the AL base metal they need to be changed, I have a few sets that have a peppered look that may be good for recoating.
I am sending them to Hacker to see what they can do with them. I read that Andrew Olson is running with coated gears for quite some time already?
Yes it comes from the charcoal canister but is the valve normal open or closed with it of the car I can blow freely in both directions whereas the valve has an arrow on it that shows from the canister to the filler neck and split to the throttle body
It is called the EVAP system on modern cars made here, and seem to be a constant source of check engine lights.
That is what smoke machines were originally made for, checking for leaks in the evap system.
On the gears, pretty much any time you can see any of the AL base metal they need to be changed, I have a few sets that have a peppered look that may be good for recoating.
I am sending them to Hacker to see what they can do with them. I read that Andrew Olson is running with coated gears for quite some time already?
Herman, think Sean has a spare intake manifold, but I don't know what year it's from. Give him a call, I'm sure he will swap with you.
Jim I like to have an extra one for keeps but it has to be 89 or newer per info got from 928 Int'l.
Jim - When do you want to do windshields?
If the cracked hose is from the charcoal canister then I don't think it would be the cause of your engine oil all over the engine.
But with the hose broken off on the lower half and being close to the filler neck and the valve not working ( I can blow through it both ways) ???
Could be the oil filler but I have not had it of the car yet
Sounds like there is a leak somewhere else, my guess would be some part of the crankcase breather system.
Jim I like to have an extra one for keeps but it has to be 89 or newer per info got from 928 Int'l.
Jim - When do you want to do windshields?
If the cracked hose is from the charcoal canister then I don't think it would be the cause of your engine oil all over the engine.
But with the hose broken off on the lower half and being close to the filler neck and the valve not working ( I can blow through it both ways) ???
Could be the oil filler but I have not had it of the car yet
Sounds like there is a leak somewhere else, my guess would be some part of the crankcase breather system.
#17
have been cleaning oil from the engine and all surrounding areas I think the oil came from a broken hose (see picture) I'm trying find the part number for the valve and try to understand it's function
Thanks for the comments
It's function is to open and purge the stored vapor/liquid fuel from the charcoal canister.
It is called the EVAP system on modern cars made here, and seem to be a constant source of check engine lights.
Thanks for the comments
It's function is to open and purge the stored vapor/liquid fuel from the charcoal canister.
It is called the EVAP system on modern cars made here, and seem to be a constant source of check engine lights.
If they fail in the open position (and the hoses are not broken or open to the atmosphere), that failed valve will leave the fuel tank exposed to manifold vacuum all the time and will collapse the gas tank.
Here: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-sender-2.html
#19
Herman, think Sean has a spare intake manifold, but I don't know what year it's from. Give him a call, I'm sure he will swap with you.
If the cracked hose is from the charcoal canister then I don't think it would be the cause of your engine oil all over the engine. Sounds like there is a leak somewhere else, my guess would be some part of the crankcase breather system.
If the cracked hose is from the charcoal canister then I don't think it would be the cause of your engine oil all over the engine. Sounds like there is a leak somewhere else, my guess would be some part of the crankcase breather system.
#20
At 95 K you may be lucky...
and be able to re coat them like Andrew Olson did. Do you have new gears on hand? What tensioner are you going with let me know if you need some help.
#21
Thanks Rob...
If they fail in the open position (and the hoses are not broken or open to the atmosphere), that failed valve will leave the fuel tank exposed to manifold vacuum all the time and will collapse the gas tank.
Here: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-sender-2.html
Here: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-sender-2.html
Now I'll have to check the electric schematic for the voltage and test this valve...
Thanks Rob
#24
Jim - When do you want to do windshields?
I agree about using an 89 or newer manifold. If your going to use a spare then why not do a little porting and polishing on the new one before you install it? I did that when I did my top end refresh.
#25
Herman,
I don't have any parts yet, and I'm not sure when I'll tackle the job. I probably should try to do it this spring before it gets hot. I thought I'd get in there and look around before ordering any parts.
Undecided on tensioner. I tend to think the stock tensioner has done well for me over the last 16 years (I've never had the tension light come on) and as long as it's rebuilt with each belt change, it should be fine, but I need to read up again on the upgrade, and pros and cons, before deciding.
Thanks for the offer of help. If I were in DFW, I'd be over handing you tools for sure.
I don't have any parts yet, and I'm not sure when I'll tackle the job. I probably should try to do it this spring before it gets hot. I thought I'd get in there and look around before ordering any parts.
Undecided on tensioner. I tend to think the stock tensioner has done well for me over the last 16 years (I've never had the tension light come on) and as long as it's rebuilt with each belt change, it should be fine, but I need to read up again on the upgrade, and pros and cons, before deciding.
Thanks for the offer of help. If I were in DFW, I'd be over handing you tools for sure.
#26
I have...
Herman,
I don't have any parts yet, and I'm not sure when I'll tackle the job. I probably should try to do it this spring before it gets hot. I thought I'd get in there and look around before ordering any parts.
Undecided on tensioner. I tend to think the stock tensioner has done well for me over the last 16 years (I've never had the tension light come on) and as long as it's rebuilt with each belt change, it should be fine, but I need to read up again on the upgrade, and pros and cons, before deciding.
Thanks for the offer of help. If I were in DFW, I'd be over handing you tools for sure.
I don't have any parts yet, and I'm not sure when I'll tackle the job. I probably should try to do it this spring before it gets hot. I thought I'd get in there and look around before ordering any parts.
Undecided on tensioner. I tend to think the stock tensioner has done well for me over the last 16 years (I've never had the tension light come on) and as long as it's rebuilt with each belt change, it should be fine, but I need to read up again on the upgrade, and pros and cons, before deciding.
Thanks for the offer of help. If I were in DFW, I'd be over handing you tools for sure.
#27
Warmer weather is a must for windshields...
From everything I've read here, I want to wait for warmer weather to do my windshield. Do you have the removal tools? If not I'll drop by Harbor freight and pick them up. I also need to get some 3M strip caulk.
I agree about using an 89 or newer manifold. If your going to use a spare then why not do a little porting and polishing on the new one before you install it? I did that when I did my top end refresh.
I agree about using an 89 or newer manifold. If your going to use a spare then why not do a little porting and polishing on the new one before you install it? I did that when I did my top end refresh.
#28
You guys are so lucky to have so many shark owners around you. I have just me and one other guy (Ben Burris with an 86.5). We don't get anywhere near the opportunity to work on all the cool things you guys do.
#29
Part number is 944 605 240 01 and circa $200.
A used one may be in order.
A used one may be in order.
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
#30
More info...
I also see now that the same schematic only shows that the hose after the solenoid valve only goes to the throttle body whereas on the GTS there's a T connection that goes to the oil filler neck.
So when adding oil it can run back from the neck to the lower location of the solenoid valve and in my case leak out through the broken hose.
I also have found that the GTS filler neck has a large hose connection (1") to the left side of it that run what appears to the throttle body as well I did look it up in PET (part # 928 107 303 09) but it does not show that port in the parts drawing.
Some pictures to support these findings
Not all filler necks are the same!!!
Pic 1 Alan Moore's filler neck shows the larger port on the left the top addition was added for his Provent connection.
Pic 2 Jim M's provent connecting is through the bottom of the filler neck
Pic3 Jim had plugged the hole on the left he did tell me why but I forgot
Pic 4 My still dirty connection from the right side of the filler neck comes down and goes to the left and connect to the solenoid valve athe low side before going left the hose has a leg that goes to the throttle body and between this point and the filler neck there's another "T" with a cap on it this port is for testing?
Last edited by Herman K; 01-10-2011 at 04:26 PM. Reason: Adding pictures