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Old 01-04-2011, 08:43 PM
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Thanks Andrew. I will Check HF. However, I have heard from Dean Fuller in TX and he has one. We are checking on shipping. I have some tools that I bought as a teenager at Sears. That was when Craftsman was very high quality. I use my jack handle, about 4 foot long as leverage. That with my 24" breaker bar, should do the job. If it doesn't, the tire place that did my tires for me yesterday says they have a 600ft pound air wrench that will get it loose. I will let them break it, drive it home (1 mile or so) and then go at it. Thankfully I have my brother for strength.

Did I meet you at SITM in 2005? I think I remember you and the car. Unfortunately, I haven't been since. I intend to rectify that this year.
Old 01-04-2011, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fbarnhill
Thanks Andrew. I will Check HF. However, I have heard from Dean Fuller in TX and he has one. We are checking on shipping. I have some tools that I bought as a teenager at Sears. That was when Craftsman was very high quality. I use my jack handle, about 4 foot long as leverage. That with my 24" breaker bar, should do the job. If it doesn't, the tire place that did my tires for me yesterday says they have a 600ft pound air wrench that will get it loose. I will let them break it, drive it home (1 mile or so) and then go at it. Thankfully I have my brother for strength.

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Sears stuff used to be OK, but there hasn't been a 1/2" drive breaker bar capable of 300+ lbs/ft in my lifetime. Save yourself the agony and just have the tire shop break the nuts free for you.

You can pop the center cap out of the rear wheels and get at the nuts without pulling anything else. Snug them back up for the drive home; that nut is what pinches the two halves of the rear bearing together while you drive.

Oh, way back at the beginning of this thread you asked if you should do both sides. I recommend it. It's likely that both rear wheels have driven about the same distance, so they are on the same wear and failure cycle. The noise from the loud one is probably masking the noise from the less noisy one. You'll have the tools, the time and the help all in one place at the same time.

WYAIT tasks include the axle boots, brake pads, rotors, since they will all be out on the floor. I know you wanted to add to your task list, just helping with the selection...
Old 01-05-2011, 11:40 AM
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Thanks again Dr Bob, Also for pointing out what i already feared (about both bearings. My rear axles look realy good. However, I probably should replace them for long time compfort and that is what I am trying for. I can tell you that there have been many a moments when I have said to myself, "Just sell this damn thing and drive the OB. It is nearly perfect mechanically perfect, or as near as a 32 year old car can be and still be a DD. I just like the new one and can't wait to see what it is like with the quirks worked like. Is that the 928 disease? We can't just enjoy them once they are done? Just have to get another and start the process all over again? This darn disease ought to be reserved for the rich folk who can afford to have it. Even at 56 I just like to go fast and slide around curves. It is the sliding around curves that breaks most cars.... Not the 928... Not once in 20 years...
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Sliding means you are doing something wrong, I suspect. I prescribe a week of performance driving school and two sets of sacrificial tires. Repeat until problem goes away.
Old 01-06-2011, 03:12 AM
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Dr Bob, No, I LOVE to slide. It is one of my favorite things to do. Oddly enough, I don't like drifting. Also, I would love a week of performance driving school. It is on my bucket list. However, I manage pretty well in most cases. The sliding is intential. I also like driving a shark as fast as it will go, as often as I can, when I can find a couple miles of traffic free road that can be trusted to have no surprises. I am sure that many shark owners share this need as much as I.
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Invest in the driving school early as possible. I thought that I was a good driver until a week at Sears Point proved me wrong-wrong-wrong. Most of us are "above average" when you ask, but are truly no better than average when we drive. Better cars save us, and give us the impression that we are better than we really are sometimes. Not meant to be a dig, just saying that you'll have a lot of fun, and the lessons continue for the rest of your driving life. Go do DE's to keep your skills up after the classes. Gives you an opportunity to work on (eliminating?) your sliding in a relaively safe setting. Certainly better than on public roads where trees, curbs, guard rails, other cars and officers will conspire to break you and your car. Do it soon!


But fix the wheel bearings first...
Old 01-07-2011, 05:13 AM
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Well Dr Bob,
The real story is this, I drag raced every weekend from the time I learned how to drive until I met my wife. Since then I have been busy raising 3 boys and putting them through college. No funds available for racing of any kind. I just have not had the $$$ for what they charge around here. Heck, a 5 day course at Charlotte would cost as much as some guys pay for their sharks. However, I will do it after I get the 88 in order and before I head to Utal for the Over the road race.

Hopfully I can make up for lost time in the next few years, God willing. You guys out west are so blessed with lots of tracks to choose from.

And I have the wheel bearings in the freezer and the B 90 tool is to be shipped some time soon. Thanks for the tip on who had one. Charlie Payne is comming down from Richmond and we are going to try to do mine and his in one weekend.
Old 01-07-2011, 05:39 PM
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We don't have kids to support, but nonetheless race dollars are a thing of the past since the wedding. Probably a good thing in the bigger picture. Plus I promised myself that I woldn't take the 928 down the competition path at all. There are a couple vintage racecars mothballed in storage if I get the bug again. It would only be about $5k to bring all the equipment to current safe condition. I'd need a larger driver's seat and maybe some cockpit stretching on the Lotus cars before I could even consider driving them seriously. The little LeGrand would be a lot easier, but there's no class even in vintage that would be right for that one.

For the classes, look at SCCA, NASA, some of the other local clubs that host driving events at the local tracks. Even a few PCA autocross sessions at very low $ would be a good way to go on a limited budget. The 928 is a bit wide for autocrossing but it still responds well to your driving as it improves.

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I think we budget 4 hours for wheel bearings on both sides, from rolling car to rolling car. Time eaters were mainly around getting the snap ring out, and of course you must resist the temptation to clean everything you see. Stick with the stuff you are working on and it will go a lot faster.

Tom (TheClairvoyant) in New Jersey wrote about problems with hubs with long wheel studs on them. Beware that it takes some other techniques and spacer-swapping to get the hub out out when there are extended studs for slide-on spacers.
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Originally Posted by fbarnhill
I will let them break it, drive it home (1 mile or so) and then go at it.
With a fuel smell from under the hood?!
Old 01-07-2011, 07:08 PM
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Details for use of the tool...just FYI
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Originally Posted by fbarnhill
I am in need of this tool. If anyone out there that has one that is willing to rent or lend for a weekend, I would be very grateful.

I am on the east coast.

I have one drivers side rear that is so bad, it is preventing me from driving the car.

Next question? Should I replace both rears at the same time?

Thanks,
Yes I have one in NJ.
cc deposit (pre-auth on cc) for tool replacement cost plus $50.00 rental 5 days.
Pre-authorization of deposit released upon good return of tool.

I can be reached at: 973-228-6400
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Originally Posted by lbpalm
Yes I have one in NJ.
cc deposit (pre-auth on cc) for tool replacement cost plus $50.00 rental 5 days.
Pre-authorization of deposit released upon good return of tool.

I can be reached at: 973-228-6400
Really?

This was over a year ago.
Old 02-12-2012, 12:37 AM
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Yep and the cool references to the fuel smell above brought it all back like a punch below the belt. It burned 2 weeks after completing this job. The tool works well though...
Old 02-12-2012, 12:42 AM
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I think there is already one in NJ available to local owners, as mentioned above. Dean has his in Mississippi. Mine is back in SoCal with Rob Edwards. Bill Ball was sheduled to have his own in the SF Bay area. I'm sure there are others. Mine is available to listmembers in good standing. Kind of a pay-it-forward thing.

lbpalm, I appeciate the offer you made. First post from a new guy, offering to rent a nice tool, is good. I'm sure that potential users will keep you in mind.
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Ibpalm, I clean forgot to awknowledge your offer. Thank you so much for it. I will probably need it on the 86.5 one of these next few months. If I could ever get it running so that I could drive it, It would certainly help.

Welcome to the list and thanks again for the offer,


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