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Old 04-16-2012, 05:07 PM
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I have a 87 S4 empty shell available for free to a rennlister if someone wants to start another big restoration project like this? You just gotta pick it up at my house in Perry, MI. No title though but im sure wouldn't be hard to get. By the way nice work so far Carl!
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Please take major pictures when you figure out how to put the window seats and metal strips back on.
BC,

Will do, I assume you mean the seals? I think I remember how it goes back together...wait...no this doesn't fit...hmmm...where does this bolt go again?

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Originally Posted by Dan87951
I have a 87 S4 empty shell available for free to a rennlister if someone wants to start another big restoration project like this? You just gotta pick it up at my house in Perry, MI. No title though but im sure wouldn't be hard to get. By the way nice work so far Carl!
Hi Dan,

Ohhh....another project....darn it, you had to peek my interest
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYVMO
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Will do, I assume you mean the seals? I think I remember how it goes back together...wait...no this doesn't fit...hmmm...where does this bolt go again?

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LOL. Its the process of essentially scratching the new paint with the process I am concerned about. And the finicky seals that only seem to be able to come off, and not back on.
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Originally Posted by BC
LOL. Its the process of essentially scratching the new paint with the process I am concerned about. And the finicky seals that only seem to be able to come off, and not back on.
I agree, I looked at the trim pieces when I removed them, and they clamp onto the painted surface really good. Probably would need to use a water based gel during assembly, but the seals will be tricky. The last paint shop messed up the install pretty good so I am doing it myself for sure this time. I have not seen the "new improved" seals from Roger so I'm not sure if they are easier to install.

As far as trim pieces goes, do you know how that "L" shaped corner piece is supposed to butt up against the longer trim pieces? Should it be a flush fit at both seams, or should the lower trim piece be overlapped by the "L" shaped bracket? The last paint shop mounted the top of the "L" flush with the upper trim piece but overlapped the lower trim piece, as if one piece was too big.

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Ohhh....another project....darn it, you had to peek my interest
PM Sent

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haha no problem Carl! Actually I just got off the phone with the seller and he going to send me a title so it looks promising. Fingers crossed! Check my website for a pictures of the car.
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Carl,

I am surprised at your choice of House of Color. I tried the system and found the primer to turn out glossy and difficult to sand. The base coat was also glossy and difficult to sand too. I only did one piece but it took a while and the result was far from satisfactory.

Good looking job though and I agree a complete paint job is a lot of work. Espeically after spending the day color sanding the second coat on all the small pieces on the car.

BTW anyone looking for a S4 project on the West Coast I have a complete S4 in pieces.
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Probably would need to use a water based gel during assembly, but the seals will be tricky. The last paint shop messed up the install pretty good so I am doing it myself for sure this time. I have not seen the "new improved" seals from Roger so I'm not sure if they are easier to install.

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Carl, Just use some of the leftover KY Jelly that came with your recent Contantine bearings purchase. T
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Originally Posted by FLYVMO
I agree, I looked at the trim pieces when I removed them, and they clamp onto the painted surface really good. Probably would need to use a water based gel during assembly, but the seals will be tricky. The last paint shop messed up the install pretty good so I am doing it myself for sure this time. I have not seen the "new improved" seals from Roger so I'm not sure if they are easier to install.

As far as trim pieces goes, do you know how that "L" shaped corner piece is supposed to butt up against the longer trim pieces? Should it be a flush fit at both seams, or should the lower trim piece be overlapped by the "L" shaped bracket? The last paint shop mounted the top of the "L" flush with the upper trim piece but overlapped the lower trim piece, as if one piece was too big.

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I am 86.5 percent sure that the L piece is riveted to the door OVER both other "legs". I continually rip them off on these cars, and say to myself "How the hell will I put this back on?"
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Originally Posted by 77tony
Probably would need to use a water based gel during assembly, but the seals will be tricky. The last paint shop messed up the install pretty good so I am doing it myself for sure this time. I have not seen the "new improved" seals from Roger so I'm not sure if they are easier to install.

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Carl, Just use some of the leftover KY Jelly that came with your recent Contantine bearings purchase. T[/QUOTE]

I was saving the leftovers for...ah yes, the trim
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Originally Posted by BC
I am 86.5 percent sure that the L piece is riveted to the door OVER both other "legs". I continually rip them off on these cars, and say to myself "How the hell will I put this back on?"
Thanks BC, perhaps someone with a properly mounted trim piece could post a close-up picture so we can see how it is supposed to look.

Carl
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Default One step closer...actually many small steps...

Finally had some free time again, so I managed to finish drilling out the spot welds on the rear quarter panels, in preparation for the GTS fenders. Also had to move my paint shop slot until August as I have not had much time lately for the project. Add to that 100+ temperatures in the garage, and it makes it impossible to do any priming, or any significant work.

I also received my rotisserie from Summit Racing, and after having mounts fabricated to fit in place of the bumper shocks, I mounted the frame on the rotisserie, and finally got it balanced before the heat kicked my ....well it was hot!

For the spot welds I used a special air tool that drills out the welds without penetrating the underlying panel. It also clamps down from the back side, very neat. I suggest NOT to use spot weld drill bits that drill a "circle" which leaves a raised center that much be ground off.

After getting the driver side quarter panel off, I noticed a metal tube, attached to the inside of the B-pillar. Anyone that knows what it might be? Only the driver's side has one.

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Great pics Carl! Amazing depth to this project!
My guess for the round tube is sunroof drain.
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Thanks Al,

I don't think it is a drain, as the foam sealed it inside the b-pillar. And I can't see anything inside the car or by the sunroof that goes here. Perhaps a manufacturing attachment point of some sort?

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Old 07-09-2012, 09:41 PM
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Rear Sunroof drains empty out the hatch jamb. Don't have a clue what that would be.


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