Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Ignition and starter wire / alarm install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-14-2010, 01:01 PM
  #1  
rexpontius
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
rexpontius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 835
Received 49 Likes on 25 Posts
Default Ignition and starter wire / alarm install

Spent a couple of hours today to remove the remains of the PO's crappy alarm system and ran the majority of wires for the new clifford system.

I got the parking lights 'flashing' to work, and the central locking system to lock and unlock the doors (using negative pulse on pin 3 and 5 of central locking control unit).

Tomorrow I plan to install the igintion and starter circuit break. What would be the best place to do this? I could try the ignition switch, but recall it is pretty hard to get to these wires, let alone do some proper soldering.

Can anyone give some advice which is the best place to break the ignition and starter circuit?

Cheers
Old 11-14-2010, 04:25 PM
  #2  
WallyP

Rennlist Member
Rennlist Site Sponsor

 
WallyP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Acworth, GA
Posts: 6,469
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Depends upon the model year...
Old 11-14-2010, 04:26 PM
  #3  
rexpontius
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
rexpontius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 835
Received 49 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

86.5
Old 11-15-2010, 05:41 PM
  #4  
rexpontius
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
rexpontius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 835
Received 49 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Went ahead with the alarm install this evening, and I am close to finishing the install.

I really like the nice comfort features of the clifford system.

When arming the system the indicator lights flash (took the wires from the P connector, off course with two diodes),and when it is dark the parking light automatically turn on when driving and 'follow you home' when arming the syten (found the parking light wires also at the CE panel and connected them with two diodes, so the L/R parking features still work)

Will mount the siren tomorrow and tidy up the wiring.

Any tips on best place for the siren?

Cheers
Michel
Old 11-15-2010, 06:09 PM
  #5  
James Bailey
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
James Bailey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 18,061
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Some place where your neighbors can easily get to it without damage to the car.........
Old 11-15-2010, 10:00 PM
  #6  
jon928se
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
jon928se's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Sydney AUS
Posts: 2,608
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rexpontius

Can anyone give some advice which is the best place to break the ignition and starter circuit?

Cheers
At the CE panel.

Locate the signal connection (not the power connection) to the EZK relay - I don't have WDs here at work to check connection numbers - EZK relay powers on EZK ECU which then powers on LH and thus fuel pumps. With no EZK you have no ignition, or fuel delivery.

For starter use starter relay signal connection.

Using the relay signal connection means the alarm is only switching a very small current - approx 0.1A - it also means that if the alarm dies you can bypass it's immobilisation by bridging the EZK and Starter relays getting you going again.

IIRC both these circuits at least on a 90 come out of and return into the CE panel. I can look up numbers tonight if required.
Old 11-16-2010, 02:46 PM
  #7  
rexpontius
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
rexpontius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 835
Received 49 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

@jon, thanks for the input.

Makes sense to break the circuit at the relais. Would be perfect if you have Plug/Pin numbers.
Old 11-16-2010, 02:48 PM
  #8  
rexpontius
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
rexpontius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 835
Received 49 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by James Bailey
Some place where your neighbors can easily get to it without damage to the car.........


Most of the time the car sits in my garage, so they would have to break the door of my garage as well :-)
Old 11-16-2010, 03:13 PM
  #9  
Alan
Electron Wrangler
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Alan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Phoenix AZ
Posts: 13,371
Received 398 Likes on 272 Posts
Default

Are you doing this for remote start capability or just theft prevention?

Personally don't like remote starters - esp on manual cars !!

If its just for immobilization - I'd only do one of these - I'd stick with just the factory imoobilization loop. Use the standard ignition system disable wiring - if you are locating the new system where the factory alarm was it probably already wired to that point. Which pins of CE depends on the year... as Wally said.

Alan



Quick Reply: Ignition and starter wire / alarm install



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:30 PM.