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Old 10-18-2010, 03:30 PM
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Despite complaints that working on a 928 can be difficult or complicated, I've found that working on our other cars to be worse. Changing the EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) valve on my wife's Chrysler Town & Country minivan should have been a 20 minute job tops. It's right on top of the engine plain view. Of course, the 4th and last bolt at the bottom of the valve is partially blocked by the alternator. Now I have to move the alternator, which forces me to get under the car and get filthy and play with the belt. Once I get access to the bolt, I'm sure it will be seized or round the head off immediately. Thank you, wonderful Chrysler engineers.
Old 10-18-2010, 03:35 PM
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Funny .. I've never opened the hood on my wife's Honda ... the 928 completely uses up my interest in wrenching ...
Old 10-18-2010, 03:43 PM
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I've always appreciated the thought and engineering that went into the 928. Yes, sometimes you have to remove a sub-assembly or two before you can get to the one you want, but not often and nowhere near as much as some of the 'disposable' cars I've owned and worked on.

Just to change the plugs on a minivan we used to have I had to jack up the car and use a 17 inch extension to go in through the passenger wheel well. Other cars require practically the entire intake to be removed before you can get to anything 'serviceable'.

Typical service tasks are a breeze with the 928: oil change, brake pads, plugs, any filter...
Old 10-18-2010, 03:59 PM
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My 2003 Suburban is an order of magnitude EASIER to wrench on. This is mainly because there is so much room to work. I don't need to take off 4 items to get to the one item I need to fix.
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My other cars don't break.
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Originally Posted by KenRudd
My 2003 Suburban is an order of magnitude EASIER to wrench on. This is mainly because there is so much room to work. I don't need to take off 4 items to get to the one item I need to fix.
Try changing a flex plate.
Old 10-18-2010, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
My other cars don't break.
LOL

Had to change DRL bulb the other day on the '03 Chev duramax. One pin and had access to all bulbs on that side of the truck.

Barely had time to sip the first beer and it was done
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Two headlights on my VW took me over 3 hours to change last week. One guy took his to an Audi dealership and they charged him big bucks because the decided the front bumper had to come off to access the bulbs.
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Originally Posted by the flyin' scotsman
LOL

Had to change DRL bulb the other day on the '03 Chev duramax. One pin and had access to all bulbs on that side of the truck.

Barely had time to sip the first beer and it was done
Chevy did that because the DRLs last about 9 months at the most. At least on my 2002 they do anyway.
Old 10-18-2010, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by auzivision
Two headlights on my VW took me over 3 hours to change last week. One guy took his to an Audi dealership and they charged him big bucks because the decided the front bumper had to come off to access the bulbs.
On the audi A6 with HID you need to take the bumper off to remove the headlights. It is optional for the bulbs but is actually easier if you do.
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
My other cars don't break.
I agree, but my Tundra is only 3 years old so its not a fair comparison.

I did notice that every bolt i removed from my 89, was like new. Even the exhaust shield bolts.
I also noticed that the engineering aloud it to go back together with out a fight.

difficult but easy to work on.
Old 10-18-2010, 05:46 PM
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I do the work on my wife's Excursion and my Jag. The Excursion is pretty easy to work on [except for the fact that its tall and I'm not]. The Jag is on par with the 928.
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman
On the audi A6 with HID you need to take the bumper off to remove the headlights. It is optional for the bulbs but is actually easier if you do.
They were HID and I tried like hell not to touch them. Not sure if it matters with these, but I wasn't successful. I remember hearing somewhere that figure print grease can shorted a bulbs expected life. At $60 a pop, I sure hope not.

It takes removing 4 bolts, 3 decorative shields, 4 intake hose clamps, 2 hoses, and 8 screws just to get at the air filters. Makes working on the 928 seem like easy street. Then again, my 92 GMC pickup is super easy… don’t even need to jack it up to change the oil.
Old 10-18-2010, 06:06 PM
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See signature, how many do you think I have had to work on....
Old 10-18-2010, 06:19 PM
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I was just using a 2011 Sonata and the headlight was out. I went to auto store bought a bulb but couldn't figure out how to install it. Went to dealership they didn't have the bulb in stock. I told them I had one but they told me it would void the warranty. I had to wait for them to get one in. So next day I go down thinking it would take them 5 min. Turns out they also have to remove the front bumper to change the bulb.

Don't get me started on changing an oil filter on a miata. Not made for fat american fists.


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