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Old 10-14-2010, 01:55 PM
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My genuine GTS pistons have 8 holes (1/2holes) around the skirt, just behind oil ring ...but I can't see where they go, don't seem to communicate to center....
Old 10-14-2010, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hayk928
I'm sorry to listen that... Happily I could catch my S4 before she went downhill...

I can confirm what Constantine said, there are no blocks available from Factory - I know it first hand. The GTS blocks are different. Thought, they could be used.

However, I'd try to get a poper S4/GT engine and tune her - without major changes you can easily get about 438 HP and still have an engine that enjoys to rev. Or use a supercharger / compressor to improve it (I might get a LOTEC kit that I could offer you).

About the holes in the piston I'm quoting that note here from rennlist:



Good luck!

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Wrong model year. Wrong holes.
Old 10-14-2010, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by philping
My genuine GTS pistons have 8 holes (1/2holes) around the skirt, just behind oil ring ...but I can't see where they go, don't seem to communicate to center....
Yes, that is the problem. The holes need to be drilled, in order for the oil to return properly, from the rings.

Note the build-up of oil on the sides and the top of the pistons. Since the oil could not return properly, it is trapped and gets into the combustion chambers.

Mahle simply forgot and Porsche didn't catch the problem.

Simple modification.
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Very difficult in Europe. There aren't many places which truly understand what is needed to hone Alusil.
Understood.
Old 10-15-2010, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Mahle simply forgot and Porsche didn't catch the problem.
And the only people who suffer are the owners...
Old 10-15-2010, 12:55 PM
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Rarely the Gods of Rennlist fail, but today both Greg and Erkka were wrong...

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-pictures.html

Clearly you can see the 4 holes drilled by the factory and you can also clearly see that Porsche did not put any holes on the skirts like it did on the S4/GT pistons...

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Just to make clear to people who don't know better. Alex has pistons which do not have anything to do with normal GTS pistons. Those are something special which haven't appeared in any other GTS engine.
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Just to make clear to people who don't know better. Alex has pistons which do not have anything to do with normal GTS pistons. Those are something special which haven't appeared in any other GTS engine.
I knew you will take the bait The pistons were found in my GTS engine, which was supplied by Porsche. So Porsche put them in and they are Porsche GTS pistons so to speak... I think Adrian Clark in the UK has seen similar pistons, but not made by Kolbenschmidt

Slightly off-topic - I took apart my GT motor and guess what I found - it is tolerance 1 block, but cylinders 1-4 were sleeved by the factory with alusil liners. WTF? Has anyone seen anything similar?
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Originally Posted by Cheburator
cylinders 1-4 were sleeved by the factory with alusil liners. WTF? Has anyone seen anything similar?
I have seen one similar S4 block where all 8 cylinder were sleeved by factory. Beautifully made setup but useless block for 104mm bore.
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... some short news about my TBF !
..I've found a new block never used (I'm really lucky sometimes...) from a Porsche parts dealer (about 20 miles from my house !!!), and everything is Ok to start assembly !
I've cleaned all the pistons heads ( ...ouch ! couldn't see the 4 valves holes cause of carbon !!!), and drilled the 8 holes under the oil ring !
My 2 cylinder heads are checked with new guides, tomorrow my crankshaft will be balanced with everything necessary inclusing weight of one piston equiped... I hope everything will go on !!!
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Unbelievable. Wow.

Congratulations!
Old 01-09-2011, 05:09 PM
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cool..now you can get this going

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Old 01-09-2011, 06:54 PM
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Really lucky if even tolerance group is correct between pistons and new block. Though group 1 seems to be more common in GTS engines than earlier models. Maybe Porsche got better with manufacturing tolerances.



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