14 Pin Connector, Pin Out list
10-10-2010, 04:45 PM
#16
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Ken,
Check your wire colors and positions against the USA 84 spreadsheet in Post #1.
It looks like 80, 81, 82, 83 Euro is identical to USA 84 14 pin, from a couple of Euro wiring charts I found.
Also looks like 80 and 81 USA are the same also.
Some of the above cars also have a hot start valve in addition to the cold start valve, both connected via other wiring to thermotime switch terminal G.
Check your wire colors and positions against the USA 84 spreadsheet in Post #1.
It looks like 80, 81, 82, 83 Euro is identical to USA 84 14 pin, from a couple of Euro wiring charts I found.
Also looks like 80 and 81 USA are the same also.
Some of the above cars also have a hot start valve in addition to the cold start valve, both connected via other wiring to thermotime switch terminal G.
10-10-2010, 04:48 PM
#17
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Speedtoys,
Adding a new connector may make some logical sense, but dig deeper and see you have added a completely new variable to an already highly variable system (or equation, ie parts working w/other parts etc...). The "constant" being all these variables have been working together rather well for years and millions of miles
I suggest you pick and chose wisely what new things you add or change..
Things like the Porkension'r or Super Bearings (TT) are also new variables, but have quite a bit of engineering and testing to back them up. Not only that, they've become well excepted because the work that has gone into them are appreciable, and benefits easily measurable. To top it all off, more and more people are using them and racking up road miles, time in service.
Granted, not millions of miles like the MB 14 pin, but far more that some chinese knockoff amp connector from Radio Shick.
Adding a new connector may make some logical sense, but dig deeper and see you have added a completely new variable to an already highly variable system (or equation, ie parts working w/other parts etc...). The "constant" being all these variables have been working together rather well for years and millions of miles
I suggest you pick and chose wisely what new things you add or change..
Things like the Porkension'r or Super Bearings (TT) are also new variables, but have quite a bit of engineering and testing to back them up. Not only that, they've become well excepted because the work that has gone into them are appreciable, and benefits easily measurable. To top it all off, more and more people are using them and racking up road miles, time in service.
Granted, not millions of miles like the MB 14 pin, but far more that some chinese knockoff amp connector from Radio Shick.
10-10-2010, 04:51 PM
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Ken,
Check your wire colors and positions against the USA 84 spreadsheet in Post #1.
It looks like 80, 81, 82, 83 Euro is identical to USA 84 14 pin, from a couple of Euro wiring charts I found.
Also looks like 80 and 81 USA are the same also.
Some of the above cars also have a hot start valve in addition to the cold start valve, both connected via other wiring to thermotime switch terminal G.
Check your wire colors and positions against the USA 84 spreadsheet in Post #1.
It looks like 80, 81, 82, 83 Euro is identical to USA 84 14 pin, from a couple of Euro wiring charts I found.
Also looks like 80 and 81 USA are the same also.
Some of the above cars also have a hot start valve in addition to the cold start valve, both connected via other wiring to thermotime switch terminal G.
Ken
80 928 S
5 Speed
UK
10-10-2010, 05:36 PM
#19
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Speedtoys,
Adding a new connector may make some logical sense, but dig deeper and see you have added a completely new variable to an already highly variable system (or equation, ie parts working w/other parts etc...). The "constant" being all these variables have been working together rather well for years and millions of miles
I suggest you pick and chose wisely what new things you add or change..
Things like the Porkension'r or Super Bearings (TT) are also new variables, but have quite a bit of engineering and testing to back them up. Not only that, they've become well excepted because the work that has gone into them are appreciable, and benefits easily measurable. To top it all off, more and more people are using them and racking up road miles, time in service.
Granted, not millions of miles like the MB 14 pin, but far more that some chinese knockoff amp connector from Radio Shick.
Adding a new connector may make some logical sense, but dig deeper and see you have added a completely new variable to an already highly variable system (or equation, ie parts working w/other parts etc...). The "constant" being all these variables have been working together rather well for years and millions of miles
I suggest you pick and chose wisely what new things you add or change..
Things like the Porkension'r or Super Bearings (TT) are also new variables, but have quite a bit of engineering and testing to back them up. Not only that, they've become well excepted because the work that has gone into them are appreciable, and benefits easily measurable. To top it all off, more and more people are using them and racking up road miles, time in service.
Granted, not millions of miles like the MB 14 pin, but far more that some chinese knockoff amp connector from Radio Shick.
*nods*
I was more along the lines of a 12pin automotive waterproof amphenol, and a heavy single pin for the 4mm feed.
Would keep future exposure & corrosion at bay from this exposed area.
Just seems, if its expected to maintain on a regular basis, and when disturbed possibly break when doing so..it can be better...and can be done better than bailing wire or cheap chinese/radio shack connectors. Certainly better than post-war German connections.
10-10-2010, 05:55 PM
#20
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^^^^^^
Ask yourself, is 2O service life reasonably acceptable to you?
In most cases it is for me.
And when you spec a new connector, make sure you understand ALL the environmental conditions. Waterproof may be a good criteria, but not to compromise heat resistance (or possibly chemical?).
If your going after connector, see what you can do about the underrated ABS "barrel style" connectors. New ones are market value gold, and they justy don't hold up in the engine bay.
Ask yourself, is 2O service life reasonably acceptable to you?
In most cases it is for me.
And when you spec a new connector, make sure you understand ALL the environmental conditions. Waterproof may be a good criteria, but not to compromise heat resistance (or possibly chemical?).
If your going after connector, see what you can do about the underrated ABS "barrel style" connectors. New ones are market value gold, and they justy don't hold up in the engine bay.
02-07-2013, 04:43 PM
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