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Old 10-04-2010, 01:42 PM
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don't forget to flush the clutch lines too..
Old 10-04-2010, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Norton928
If the car is tracked and using ATE super blue, best pracice is every 6 months, correct?
I wouldnt go that long...doesnt matter what fluid it is.
Old 10-04-2010, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lizard931
If running standard DOT 3 or 4 fluid 2 years is OK.

If you are running high performance DOT 4 or 5.1 fluid then a MAX of 1 year.
I normally change mine every 6 months of so.

I have also been noticing more and more master cylinders failing from a build up of corrosion in the bore from a lack of fluid changes.
What is the thought on this. I run ATE Super Blue and normally flush once a year. Had not heard that using 5.1 had more frequent flushing requirements.

Also, I HIGHLY recommend picking up a Motive Power Bleeder. They are fairly cheap on EBAY. Combined with lift bars I think last brake and clutch flush took less than 20 minutes. Its actually easier than an oil change now.
Old 10-04-2010, 02:44 PM
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Chris,

The higher the boiling point of the fluid, the more hygroscopic it is.
DOT5.1 fluid always has a higher boiling point.
The faster it absorbs water, the sooner it needs to be flushed out with fresh fluid to prevent corrosion.
Old 10-04-2010, 04:18 PM
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Ah - Thanks for the explanation. I had no idea. My dumb assumption was that the "better" 5.1 fluid was less hydroscopic.
Old 10-04-2010, 04:22 PM
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I don't use the brakes much (they slow me down), but I flush every 2 to 2.5 years.

It's traditional in the US to ignore brake fluid, like it lasts forever.
Old 10-04-2010, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lizard931
Chris,

The higher the boiling point of the fluid, the more hygroscopic it is.
DOT5.1 fluid always has a higher boiling point.
The faster it absorbs water, the sooner it needs to be flushed out with fresh fluid to prevent corrosion.
got a link to that?
Old 10-04-2010, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by z driver 88t
Ah - Thanks for the explanation. I had no idea. My dumb assumption was that the "better" 5.1 fluid was less hydroscopic.

5.0 is, however, its silicone based, and doesnt mix well with normal fluid, and some seals might not like it.


But thats a whole nother story..
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
5.0 is, however, its silicone based, and doesnt mix well with normal fluid, and some seals might not like it.


But thats a whole nother story..
Don't even think of putting 5.0 in your 928 unless you completely flush the system, renew all the rubber seals and plan on completely draining and changing the fluid every race/drive.

The other bad thing about 5.0 is that it is not hygroscopic like normal fluid. In fact it mixes with water as well as oil mixes with water - not at all. However the brake system still gets moisture in it because it isn't completely sealed. But the water just migrates down to the lowest points and stays there and slowly fills up.
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Sorry Greg, I am just checking on my phone. So no links. But if you spend some time studying you will undoubtably find the same information. In my eyes it is simply cheap insurance. And I do use my brakes rather hard esp when I get a beep beep
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Originally Posted by jon928se
Don't even think of putting 5.0 in your 928 unless you completely flush the system, renew all the rubber seals and plan on completely draining and changing the fluid every race/drive.

The other bad thing about 5.0 is that it is not hygroscopic like normal fluid. In fact it mixes with water as well as oil mixes with water - not at all. However the brake system still gets moisture in it because it isn't completely sealed. But the water just migrates down to the lowest points and stays there and slowly fills up.

Yup..that sums up the whole nother story quite well...and its damned hard to fully flush.
Old 10-04-2010, 09:06 PM
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OK yes, my local shop owner has explained to me how the brake fluid collects moisture and can boil thus causing brake failure.

This was something unknown to me for many years, I think I drove my 944 for at least 6 years without once changing brake fluid. It turned out to be fine after that and it got more frequent changes.

Thanks for the tips,

Sean



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