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Old 08-20-2010, 02:17 PM
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Default How long should a steering wheel swap take?

I'm seriously considering going back to the stock wheel from the 930s wheel I have now. If I do, I'll have a perfect condition 930 wheel for sale. I want to swap them to see if i do indeed like the stock wheel better.

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Old 08-20-2010, 02:29 PM
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I takes about 5 minutes to remove or install a stock 928 Steering wheel. Not much to it, but be careful you don't break the 3 little plastic gizmo's the horn pad snaps onto. Pull very gingerly to pop it off and you should be OK. A 27mm socket and a medium extender are needed to unscrew the retaining bolt as it is deep behind the horn pad seat. More so if you are putting an extended hub on. Oh, and make sure the wheels are good and straight and put a mark on the shaft to indicate when the wheels are lined up. Otherwise you will be off a degree or two going down the road which will drive you nuts.
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Ummm, flat rate about 4.5 min

Never done one before, and without the proper tools. 1.5 hr
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sweet! I could go home and do it on my lunch break! :-)
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Read my edit about getting alignment right, or the wheel will be cockeyed.
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A picture of the wheel you are selling would help. That wheel is sans air bag, right? I wonder what has to be done to make it work in an air bag car? Anybody know?

I think you will find management frowns on indefinite statements. If it is for sale, say so, and state a price. [B/c I can't tell you whether I am interested til I know.] Otherwise the Gretch will get you.
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Originally Posted by DuncanR50
Read my edit about getting alignment right, or the wheel will be cockeyed.
I did, thank you!
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Originally Posted by SteveG
A picture of the wheel you are selling would help. That wheel is sans air bag, right? I wonder what has to be done to make it work in an air bag car? Anybody know?

I think you will find management frowns on indefinite statements. If it is for sale, say so, and state a price. [B/c I can't tell you whether I am interested til I know.] Otherwise the Gretch will get you.
I thought airbags weren't an option on the 928 until 91.
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Originally Posted by DuncanR50
I thought airbags weren't an option on the 928 until 91.
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Originally Posted by SteveG
A picture of the wheel you are selling would help. That wheel is sans air bag, right? I wonder what has to be done to make it work in an air bag car? Anybody know?

I think you will find management frowns on indefinite statements. If it is for sale, say so, and state a price. [B/c I can't tell you whether I am interested til I know.] Otherwise the Gretch will get you.
Please pardon my faux pas, I should have swapped the wheels, seen which one I liked better then made the statement. Duly noted.
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I just swapped my steering wheel.

It took about 10 minutes.

Remember to pull the horn fuse (#18 in my car) before starting.

For mine, I found that an air impact wrench was very helpful, since I didn't feel comfortable applying the torque needed to loosen the nut against holding the steering wheel or against the lock.

After installing the new one, torque the nut to 50Nm, reinstall the horn pad, and reinstall the fuse.

For a long hub wheel, a deep 27mm socket is OK, but for a short hub, you'll need a shallow 27mm socket.

Cheers,
Paul
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I managed to turn it into an all-day task requiring a whole page of documentation.
http://www.billsworkshop.com/P928S4/momo/momo_club4.htm
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Read a few of the instructions and tips, just a couple comments:

-- I never use an impact gun on the steering shaft nut. It bangs on the steering shaft lock or on the pinion gear where it meets the rack. Neither is a good idea.

-- Rather than depending on the steering lock and using a long bar or cheater, I use the long bar or cheater wedged against the floor or the side of the tunnel, then pull on the wheel with the column unlocked. All local torque and forces, no strain on the shaft, the lock, or the pinion.
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Originally Posted by dr bob
Read a few of the instructions and tips, just a couple comments:

-- I never use an impact gun on the steering shaft nut. It bangs on the steering shaft lock or on the pinion gear where it meets the rack. Neither is a good idea.

-- Rather than depending on the steering lock and using a long bar or cheater, I use the long bar or cheater wedged against the floor or the side of the tunnel, then pull on the wheel with the column unlocked. All local torque and forces, no strain on the shaft, the lock, or the pinion.
I was holding the steering wheel with my hand when using the impact wrench... neither the lock nor the pinion gear was being banged. The impulse of the gun is quick enough that the torque is being applied against the inertia of the larger part (steering wheel and column in this case). I'm glad you have a procedure you are happy with, but I think it pretty unlikely that the removal I did, where I could easily hand hold the wheel, would be more stressful than applying 100Nm or more of torque to the wheel to break the nut loose.
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Good idea, dr. bob to avoids stressing the lock. I was leery of using the steering lock, but the torque was quite low (should be 30 ft lbs) and seemed little strain, but I'll use your suggestion next time.


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