Lizard928

Your wrong BC,

I would get an arial atom, and put in a 500BHP motor

BC

Okay. Let me rephrase that. If we all had the money, we would have cars for each day, and several waiting with paid mechanics at the track, one of which would be the 599xx and another a modified Ariel Atom. Better?

I mean I would also have an ethanol-drinking Twin turbo suburban similar to what Lingenfelter used to make, but that's just for towing.

IcemanG17

the main reason the 944-951 was "rated" as a better handling car was due to its weight....500lbs is HUGE..back then......keep in mind 3000lbs was what a "sports" car was supposed to weigh back then....since the 928 was 3500+ everyone instantly thought it was due heavy and this impression biased their results...

another factor is the feel of the 928...due to its weight-size-low power steering assist the 928's can feel a bit "heavy" at low speeds around town....this also enters in the mindset of the reviewer

Once on track the 928's really come alive......especially lighter 928's.....in my opinion the 928 is a BETTER track day platform than the 944-951...why...suspension design...the 928 uses true coil overs at every corner....944 uses struts and torsion bars, which are clearly outdated....

The 928 has better suspension, comes with larger brakes and is more powerful... Yes there are very fast 944's out there....but there are also very fast 928's out there.....and the last I heard was the "fastest" lap time between 944-951-928's is held by the 928.....yes its a true race car...but it still gets around a track faster than any 944

whalebird

A lot could be said here. A 951 can be wicked fast and handle pretty good. They need a lot(read $$$)to make them "great" track cars. They are very expensive to own. A Miata is a "GREAT" track car right out of the box. A 911 with modest suspension is a "great" track car.
Now a 928 is arguably the most deceptive car of all time. They are brutal fast in most any environment and "feel" like the 951 should when pushed to the limits. On the track, the added mass of the 928 may take some getting used to. You will have to find the corners of the car and place it deliberatly on-line. Otherwise the 928 is a superb dancing partner. I can't say the same for the 951 - as much as I would like to.
A 928 and a 911 are brilliantly engineered, uncompramising cars. The 924/44/51 are...well, a compramise.
A 928 will blow your mind, it will amaze you how light they feel. Also, it will amaze you how slow they feel...until you look at the speedometer and you realize you are covering large amounts of real estate with no drama at all - that includes the twisties.
FYI - I came to the 928 forum to post this reply. I didn't have the heart to do it in the 924/44/51 forum.

goodspeed928

There is a BIG differnce between the 928's too...
My old 86.0 was a great car but I could find the limits of that car on the street. My new 90s4 is WAY more car, So I think I need a track to find the limits of this one.

SeanR

As has been said before by Wally.

The 928 will far exceed the abilities of the driver, there are only a handful of people who can, and are willing to push the car to its limits. I'm not one of them.

James-man

I am interested in seeing how many 951s squeeze in over 50 track days without a rebuild or major engine service.

Then I'd like to buy one.

blown 87

I am in that crowd also.

dprantl

I have to agree with Wally and Greg here. One time I was really pushing it at about 65mph or so and there was a very deceptive very tight 90 deg right hand corner with concrete pavement on both sides. It was just over a little crest (hard to explain) so you could not see it until you were right on it. I thought for sure I was done as in shock I suddenly saw the situation, but the 928 only did a small 4-wheel slide about one inch sideways. I had about 1/4 of a second to brake before turn in. I still can't really believe the car did that, and I don't think I have the courage to try that again at that speed.

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

hacker-pschorr

That depends on way to many variables to simply say X year handles better than year Y.

Also, the first time I drove an S4 without sports suspension I thought something was wrong with the car. The handling was noticeably worse than even the pre 86 cars with the factory sports option I've driven.

Iwanna928

I have a 79 and haven't had it to the track yet, tranny issues. I have driven it hard into some different corners around where I live and was amazed at the cars capability's. The PO raced the car at Sebring and the suspension has been lowered. I believe there may be some other mods but I will have to have someone that knows take a look at it. That said it definetly needs larger brakes.

With some more tweaks it should be a sweet setup. I haven't driven a S4 so they must be awesome!

I have driven a n/a 944 and a turbo. The n/a to me is a weak car do to power and the first time I rode one I thought this is a Porsche, all that money, what a joke. The turbo, hold on to your britches, wow was that fun when the boost hit.

I would like one for sure, a Modified 928 and a modified 944 turbo. Since I am not a wealthy man I could only chose one and the 928 win's in my book! I picked the 928 because it has a V8 and the 944 was boosted. I felt that I could have some more issues in regards to maintenance from all the research I had done. Plus the sound of the 928 is as sweet as the come.!

James Bailey

POC H class is NA 944 S, early 4.5 928 and 2 liter 68/9 911 S ....The 928 and 944 on a short tight track run nearly identical lap times both get smoked by the 911 .... Longer higher speed track the higher torque power of the 928 helps overcome the increasing drag of air resistance. Lower speed acceleration is simple function of horsepower to lbs then aero drag kicks in. And yes I have driven a 928 to it's limit and beyond going off Big Willow in turn 9 about 100 mph ! You never know the limit until AFTER you exceed it.

tv

The video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qypg3he7VYo

hacker-pschorr

Is there a part II that includes some cornering?

tv

I wish I had a video cam set-up on mine over the years, it just goes where you want it to. Only surprised me once and did not lose it. Had some fast rides with 944's on back roads too, they are nice.