Am I drunk, or is the 928 the pinnacle of German engineering?
06-13-2010 | 01:29 PM
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Edited: I highlighted some of the more obvious idiotic ideas. There are some things about this car that were obviously thought up by either a relative or girlfriend of the guy who had final say on the design, they are so bad. Sure, parts will wear out. But something that's obviously crap to begin with??? SMT only points out a few of those. We could start a whole thread on this (wait, I think that's already been done).
+1. Let's not forget hanging the alternator and A/C compressor off the bottom of the engine. And I'm guessing the bug eye headlights were only to avoid copycatting the Daytona's pop up lamp setup.
But after you drink enough of the Porsche Kool Ade, after a while you'll even start to believe that the engine belongs behind the rear wheels. Ah, what we drink to believe all this must be 190 proof. Seriously, though, it handles better than anything I've ever driven (but for the original price, it had better!), and has plenty of power for 99.9% of all uses, and has the most comfortable seats I've ever sat in for a car. But 'pinnacle'? You have to be kidding me. Now pardon me while I go out to argue with my climate control system that insists on blowing hot air at odd times.
wait, OT: Would a pinnacle...
Have resistor packs that go out of spec so frequently causing magic blower syndrome?
Have aluminum ball joints prone to catastrophic failure? (on the early cars)
Have a little blue hose that the rest of the car is built around, that tends to get weepy?
Have motor mounts that collapse?
Have less than optimal synchros (in the early cars)?
Have dashes that have a great propensity for cracking?
Have vague shift gate/shift feel on the manual cars?
Have steering racks (and bushings) prone to wear by 100K?
Have an electrical system that benefits from servicing every ground contact, every year?
Have interior lock buttons made of pot metal that often seems to sheer?
Have sunroof transmission/motor parts that fail?
Rely on clip on c-clips to keep the headlight assembly from punching through the radiator?
*Relays*
*Timing belt/tensioner/impeller.,.
Just some thoughts.
Have resistor packs that go out of spec so frequently causing magic blower syndrome?
Have aluminum ball joints prone to catastrophic failure? (on the early cars)
Have a little blue hose that the rest of the car is built around, that tends to get weepy?
Have motor mounts that collapse?
Have less than optimal synchros (in the early cars)?
Have dashes that have a great propensity for cracking?
Have vague shift gate/shift feel on the manual cars?
Have steering racks (and bushings) prone to wear by 100K?
Have an electrical system that benefits from servicing every ground contact, every year?
Have interior lock buttons made of pot metal that often seems to sheer?
Have sunroof transmission/motor parts that fail?
Rely on clip on c-clips to keep the headlight assembly from punching through the radiator?
*Relays*
*Timing belt/tensioner/impeller.,.
Just some thoughts.
But after you drink enough of the Porsche Kool Ade, after a while you'll even start to believe that the engine belongs behind the rear wheels. Ah, what we drink to believe all this must be 190 proof. Seriously, though, it handles better than anything I've ever driven (but for the original price, it had better!), and has plenty of power for 99.9% of all uses, and has the most comfortable seats I've ever sat in for a car. But 'pinnacle'? You have to be kidding me. Now pardon me while I go out to argue with my climate control system that insists on blowing hot air at odd times.
06-13-2010 | 02:12 PM
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Edited: I highlighted some of the more obvious idiotic ideas. There are some things about this car that were obviously thought up by either a relative or girlfriend of the guy who had final say on the design, they are so bad. Sure, parts will wear out. But something that's obviously crap to begin with??? SMT only points out a few of those. We could start a whole thread on this (wait, I think that's already been done).
+1. Let's not forget hanging the alternator and A/C compressor off the bottom of the engine. And I'm guessing the bug eye headlights were only to avoid copycatting the Daytona's pop up lamp setup.
But after you drink enough of the Porsche Kool Ade, after a while you'll even start to believe that the engine belongs behind the rear wheels. Ah, what we drink to believe all this must be 190 proof. Seriously, though, it handles better than anything I've ever driven (but for the original price, it had better!), and has plenty of power for 99.9% of all uses, and has the most comfortable seats I've ever sat in for a car. But 'pinnacle'? You have to be kidding me. Now pardon me while I go out to argue with my climate control system that insists on blowing hot air at odd times.
+1. Let's not forget hanging the alternator and A/C compressor off the bottom of the engine. And I'm guessing the bug eye headlights were only to avoid copycatting the Daytona's pop up lamp setup.
But after you drink enough of the Porsche Kool Ade, after a while you'll even start to believe that the engine belongs behind the rear wheels. Ah, what we drink to believe all this must be 190 proof. Seriously, though, it handles better than anything I've ever driven (but for the original price, it had better!), and has plenty of power for 99.9% of all uses, and has the most comfortable seats I've ever sat in for a car. But 'pinnacle'? You have to be kidding me. Now pardon me while I go out to argue with my climate control system that insists on blowing hot air at odd times.
As I work on my car, I find myself thrilled when I reinstall parts and the screw holes line up. Even the cheap center console side panel screw holes line up, and I have no trouble putting the car back together. That level of precision in an automobile designed without computers is what I'm talking about.
I feel like the Porsche engineers were going for a Hail Mary with the 928 in trying to build a car that would overcome and replace the esteemed 911, and I think they succeeded.
But, the 911 still lives on while the 928 does not.
06-13-2010 | 02:14 PM
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Oh, I already do think that about a few things.
For instance, the tranny cooler lines. One cooler line travels beside the fuel lines in plain view, easy access. The other one travels above/beside the torque tube. WTF!?
06-13-2010 | 02:29 PM
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The goal at Porsche was to build the very best sportscar that they could given the resources at the time and as engineers they hoped it would sell ! In that emissions driven ERA Porsche was not sure they could meet the standards with an aircooled engine. The difficulties they had with the 2.7 Mag cased engine was a testiment to how difficult the task was. The 928 WAS built as a replacement for the 911 but the buying public is a strange animal and has a "mind" of it's own. Now the "911" has morfed into a 928 sized package...water cooled , Weisach rear axle , true auto transmission , and the weight to prove it.... VW is said to be working on a new entry level Porsche sports car 
cheaper smaller lighter....
cheaper smaller lighter....
06-13-2010 | 03:25 PM
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As far as MB's go, I always perfered the 80's platform. They were build to last and holds the highest milage record for a passenger car, or did at one point. 300 turbo deisel.
Just looking at my 79 today and seeing how a 31 yr old car performs, how solid it is and it's timeless shape is a statement to what Porsche accomplished in the late 70's. Way ahead of it's time!
Just looking at my 79 today and seeing how a 31 yr old car performs, how solid it is and it's timeless shape is a statement to what Porsche accomplished in the late 70's. Way ahead of it's time!
10-16-2013 | 09:15 PM
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