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Old 06-11-2010, 02:28 PM
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Just a heads-up for my fellow scoflaws out there in Kali--

I got stopped by a sneaky CHP this morning- he was parked behind some bushes on the side of the freeway, standing outside his car with a LIDAR gun, and got me as I was passing another car....completely hidden...
The V-1 went off, but by then he had me. Hazards of laser- it doesn't spread and so the detector doesn't see it till its aimed right at you, then its too late!

crap!

For some reason, he let me off with a warning. I must have looked pretty sad...

I don't know any way of avoiding this- besides not being the fastest car on the road-
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I got a demo of Andrew Olsen's laser jammer... will look into getting those installed on my cars.
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Oooh, that's not good. Had just gotten used to ignoring anything other than Ka band.
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Nicole- what did Andrew's jammer look like?
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Originally Posted by svp928
Nicole- what did Andrew's jammer look like?
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From what I've read, LIDAR has to hit a reflective point on the vehicle, usually headlights or front license plate. Since the 928 has no headlight, the front license plate is first choice, then foglights. Typically there's a spotter hidden to get the read and a response unit slightly downstream to pull you over.

Have heard that a bent front plate can cause havoc, enough to require another "shot" at you, which would allow you to respond to the V1 alarm. May look wierd, but heavily bent downward as if you bumped another vehicle should do the trick...still have the plate, but you simply didn't re-align it flat after it got bent.

We got hit coming down Donner from Tahoe last summer and CHP actually explained why LIDAR was always perfect. His first check was to see where the "spotter" hit us, since headlights are not exposed, verifying the front plate was there. He actually seemed a bit puzzled how we were hit once he saw the headlights and with my compelling argument for how it couldn't have been me that was speeding , perhaps it was some of the reason for letting us go

My front plate is bent down and I'm considering some kind of film on the foglights to deter accurate reflection.

Andrew's solution seems the best though.
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Nice, Andrew- is that the Escort version? Jammers are illegal here in Rep. of Kali, but I don't know the penalty. I'd have to hide it better than you to get by here... Radar jammer is Federal Felony- not good.

They got me in my truck- which is one giant lidar target... I'd need about 6 of those jammers to protect it, lol! . I suspect the car would be more difficult to get because, as anonymous says, its not very flat or reflective...
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Originally Posted by svp928
Nice, Andrew- is that the Escort version? Jammers are illegal here in Rep. of Kali, but I don't know the penalty. I'd have to hide it better than you to get by here... Radar jammer is Federal Felony- not good.
http://www.guysoflidar.com/californi...mmer-laws.html

You are already breaking the law anyway, what's one more?
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Originally Posted by anonymousagain
From what I've read, LIDAR has to hit a reflective point on the vehicle, usually headlights or front license plate. Since the 928 has no headlight, the front license plate is first choice, then foglights. Typically there's a spotter hidden to get the read and a response unit slightly downstream to pull you over.

Have heard that a bent front plate can cause havoc, enough to require another "shot" at you, which would allow you to respond to the V1 alarm. May look wierd, but heavily bent downward as if you bumped another vehicle should do the trick...still have the plate, but you simply didn't re-align it flat after it got bent.

We got hit coming down Donner from Tahoe last summer and CHP actually explained why LIDAR was always perfect. His first check was to see where the "spotter" hit us, since headlights are not exposed, verifying the front plate was there. He actually seemed a bit puzzled how we were hit once he saw the headlights and with my compelling argument for how it couldn't have been me that was speeding , perhaps it was some of the reason for letting us go

My front plate is bent down and I'm considering some kind of film on the foglights to deter accurate reflection.

Andrew's solution seems the best though.
I don't have a front license plate. Seems most people on the forum don't have them from the pictures I've seen.

Anybody been pulled over for not having a front plate? Having one sure kills the front end look.
Old 06-11-2010, 03:51 PM
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In IL, you must have a front license plate. Also, jammers are illegal and they are confiscated during the traffic stop.
I figure I may as well pay the ticket for the price of replacing a jammer.
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Stealth tech!

Originally Posted by anonymousagain
From what I've read, LIDAR has to hit a reflective point on the vehicle, usually headlights or front license plate. Since the 928 has no headlight, the front license plate is first choice, then foglights. Typically there's a spotter hidden to get the read and a response unit slightly downstream to pull you over.

Have heard that a bent front plate can cause havoc, enough to require another "shot" at you, which would allow you to respond to the V1 alarm. May look wierd, but heavily bent downward as if you bumped another vehicle should do the trick...still have the plate, but you simply didn't re-align it flat after it got bent.

We got hit coming down Donner from Tahoe last summer and CHP actually explained why LIDAR was always perfect. His first check was to see where the "spotter" hit us, since headlights are not exposed, verifying the front plate was there. He actually seemed a bit puzzled how we were hit once he saw the headlights and with my compelling argument for how it couldn't have been me that was speeding , perhaps it was some of the reason for letting us go

My front plate is bent down and I'm considering some kind of film on the foglights to deter accurate reflection.

Andrew's solution seems the best though.
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Originally Posted by gearz
I don't have a front license plate. Seems most people on the forum don't have them from the pictures I've seen.

Anybody been pulled over for not having a front plate? Having one sure kills the front end look.
I have been in previous vehicles. I does hurt the looks, but I've always had one now for the last decade or so.
Old 06-11-2010, 04:24 PM
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Lidar or Lasers are just about impossible to beat. I trained on one way back in the academy.....you can get accurate speed readings on diesel trucks from really far away, I would guess 1/4 mile.....really aero cars are much harder to get a reading on...which is why they teach officers to aim for the front plate....which is yet another reason not to have one....but of course that is illegal too
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hmmm...perhaps the question is "what is the fine for not having a front plate"?

Darken the foglights, remove the plate. Seems the only place to hit with LIDAR would be a shiny spot in the paint on the curved surface of the bumper. That's gotta be good odds that it won't hit the first time and provide some detector forewarning.

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