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Old 01-28-2010 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Attack
the right 968 is everything the 928 is. Except for the V8. it has respectable numbers. But it isnt going to growl at you. You must love the 928 to own it. The history, the car.... The people that have them.... Anyone can have a 968... It takes a real car guy with a love for the car to really have a 928.

the 928 is an amazing car. The 968 is just another car. You, Son. Need to make this choice on your own.
That's kinda a matter of personal opinion. The 968 1992-1995 production total was 12776 of which 4665 came to the US of which 2248 were cabriolets. It is a very low production car which should not be considered just another car... I'm sure 968 owners are just as passionate about their cars as 928 owners are and likely would be offended by being considered just another car.....It is a Porsche!

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Old 01-28-2010 | 01:32 PM
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Ah ...."since I go through vehicles often, ... " Given that MOST 928s get somewhat neglected you often find that catching up on repairs will be 25-50 % of what you initially pay for the car just getting it in good reliable running condition any "upgrades" can really blow the budget. The average 928 is NOT easy to sell when you are done with it , that is when you discover how really cheap they can be
Old 01-28-2010 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
Ah ...."since I go through vehicles often, ... " Given that MOST 928s get somewhat neglected you often find that catching up on repairs will be 25-50 % of what you initially pay for the car just getting it in good reliable running condition any "upgrades" can really blow the budget. The average 928 is NOT easy to sell when you are done with it , that is when you discover how really cheap they can be
You get a LOT of car for Your money, when You buy a 928. But there is a backside to that: You het only so little money for Your car, when You sell the 928.


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Old 01-28-2010 | 03:09 PM
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Buy a nice model cheap, fix it and do the mods you want and hold on to her.

Why would you buy a car, invest all that time and money, just to sell it and take a beating.

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Old 01-28-2010 | 03:18 PM
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I don't agree with the 928 being a money pit. Both my GT and S4 have/had held their values fairly well and didn't cost a ton to purchase or maintain.

Due dilligence is need with buying a used car. Another point, be prepared to pay more up front for PPI and a better car and you won't have to worry as much about the deferred maintenance.
Old 01-28-2010 | 04:29 PM
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The fact that a 968 has ring and pinion issues, chain tensioner issues, and is still 4 cylinders encouraged me to stay with 928s. They are till fantastic cars though.
Old 01-28-2010 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bronto
Drive an early model 928 before you reject them. Many say they feel much lighter and nimbler than the later ones. You might like it. I've only driven 2 later models (including a GTS) and I like the feel of mine better. Lots more manuals available with the early models too.
this is great advice...the 1st 928 I drove was a 78 5 speed...it is FUN....lots of fun.....the S4+ just have a different feel....heavier and more intense....in my opinion Euro S's are among the most fun to drive 928's.... the lighter car with near the power of an S4.....

the only downside of early cars is they are SIMPLE....not many luxury features like you get in a S4+ or GTS....which is a large part of why they are lighter.... my lemons racer is an US 84 automatic...about the least desirable 928 there is...but at a racing weight of 2860 it is quite fun to drive!!

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Old 01-28-2010 | 10:59 PM
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I have owned three 928's. Two S4's and a decade later back in again with an OB 79. Let me say that I enjoy the earlier car more then the S4. First it's more simple. Non interference. NO abs, airbags, heated seats, power seats, sunroof, power hatch motor to worry about. A few mods makes a world of difference. Trust me. I would never have thought I would ever by an OB back in my S4 days. Then I thought about the bang for the buck and found a great car in great condition. Not a garage queen but a solid pampered, maintained sunday driver. My OB has been my favorite 928 by far, it feels so much lighter and with the S4 brakes and header, etc, it's a blast to drive. I've had alot of toys from the 3 928's to NSX, 8 series BMW, 500SL, 540Sport, two 911's and a few Vettes. Nothing beats V8 power and the GT type ride and experience. I've never owned a 944/68 but I have been in one or two and I agree the 928 is a super car and the 944/968 is just not. Surly fun for the money but not a 928. Truth is you either have to have a 928 or you don't. Those who don't get "it" shouldn't try to. It's hard to explain but if your like me and just stare at your 928 you know what I mean. I just dont see anyone staring at 944/68's no matter how well they perform. No offense to anyone. It's like prefering Km Kardashian to umm Calista Flockhardt. Just my two cents. PS My first S4 was an auto and I would never go auto again. Loved the car, but manual is, for me, the only way to go.
Old 01-28-2010 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Attack
the right 968 is everything the 928 is. Except for the V8. it has respectable numbers. But it isnt going to growl at you. You must love the 928 to own it. The history, the car.... The people that have them.... Anyone can have a 968... It takes a real car guy with a love for the car to really have a 928.

the 928 is an amazing car. The 968 is just another car. You, Son. Need to make this choice on your own.

He's right about the 928's history... Let's face it-VERY few cars are true Icons of a generation- the 928 is one of them. I mean, from all of the movies that featured them, to the posters on thousands of teen boy's walls- dreaming of one day owning one. It represented all that the 80's were about, too- Greed, excess, and luxury. I like 968's- but noone ever had a poster of one on their wall... so let's not bull****... it ain't no 928, and never will be...
Old 01-29-2010 | 01:35 AM
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Brian,

BE SURE to change your trans fluid VERY REGULARLY in the Lemons racer! I did about 10k miles on the track (plus probably 2k or 3k on the street) after a trans fluid change and it was WAY to much... to late in fact...already BIG TIME burned smell... trans all slippy now...I have one waiting in the wings for install, but damn it... Had I been changing the tranny fluid about every 6 months or (3 to 4 events) I probably would have been fine! Live and learn!
Old 01-29-2010 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pcar928fan
Brian,

BE SURE to change your trans fluid VERY REGULARLY in the Lemons racer! I did about 10k miles on the track (plus probably 2k or 3k on the street) after a trans fluid change and it was WAY to much... to late in fact...already BIG TIME burned smell... trans all slippy now...I have one waiting in the wings for install, but damn it... Had I been changing the tranny fluid about every 6 months or (3 to 4 events) I probably would have been fine! Live and learn!
This is a VERY good idea...... the temp of trans fluid is directly correlated to how long it lasts.....at 400F ATF will only last about 40 minutes....at 175F it lasts just about forever....which is why I am installing a temp gauge for the fluid...that way I know exactly how hot it is getting...that plus good synthetic fluid!!
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Brian,
That last point is VERY GOOD too...I REALLY need to figure out a good way to hook up the Trans temp gauge in my race car too! I have not driven it enough at this point to worry to much about it though...well, I say that... 2 DE WEEKENDS, 1 race weekend (quite a lot of driving) and then one other track 1/2 day. It will need some other work before it hits the track next time (I can hope this spring) so that will be one of the things we update. Temp gauge and fluid change...to go with all other fluids being changed too!
Old 01-30-2010 | 12:58 AM
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I'd read all those scare stories about the 968 cam tensioner pads, chain, and the cam gear wear so when I changed my cam belt, rollers, tensioner, etc. I planned on replacing the cam chain and tensioners too (I do this on all the Pcar water pumpers as preventative maintenance...I tend to not trust some POs) So I bought the parts along with the other stuff I needed, took the cam cover off and everything under there looked practically new at 65K miles. I still have the new chain and pads. Same with pinion bearing condition....like new but I did have that checked in a PPI....took a chance on the cam chain. Lucky perhaps. If proper maintenance is done on these cars, this is unlikely to be a problem. I like the way the 968 is built but not enamored at having to have a balance belt (actually I don't HAVE to have it).

I would not recommend an auto 968. The 6 speed makes the car ownable. I think that on a 928 an auto trans is not going to affect your thrills too much. All that torque really does make a difference. My biggest concern with buying any auto 928 is the possibility that it might be starting into thrust bearing failure. Now, THERE are some scary 928 stories! And...there are few if any 928 owners that are going to let anyone tear into the car to check the thrust bearing play before you buy. Maybe the 928 purchase is a leap of faith?

Just me...cuz I'm a certified paranoid.

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Old 01-30-2010 | 10:55 AM
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space cowboy,


you posted your 968th post on page 1. not sure anyone noticed it. maybe, its a sign !


the 928s represent some of the most obscene levels of performance that you will ever see in a road going car, and when built to the limit, they go faster than all the other Porsches. The mods are expensive but the sky is the limit. even a well maintained 928 left completely stock, is all the car that most people could ever dream of driving, including myself. but with such a car comes great cost...

some guys are running 928s after original owners let the cars sit due to high maintenance costs, before finally deciding to move on. sometimes the original owners pass and their relatives inherit the cars or sell them. i had an '89 S4... the original owner had a gone through clutch # 2 and said, "i'm out." and a few years later i too decided to sell it. DUMB. i was without a Porsche for 3 years when i got my 968 with 74,000 miles.


it's been really fun modding my 968. i have done a lot of stuff to the car. i got about $10,000 of improvements just in the interior (996 steering wheel, airbag, sparco leather, rear seat delete, stereo). it's pretty gorgeous car to be in now. i put on 18 inch wheels, tires, 928 GTS brakes, all the suspension rubber, doing the car's first front engine tear down, including H2O pump, front seals, cam chain third set of belts and rollers, motor mounts... i've added a new, lightweight exhaust in advance of adding a supercharger... the original owner had the ps pump done, new ps lines, radiator, and the ac was also done...

the car has had about $28,000 in service and upgrades since birth. you can compare that to owning a 928, and it's definitely on par with what the 928 guys (and gals) have done here... they probably do more in many cases.


Carl Fauset of 928 motorsports has completed a supercharger development project for the 968. for about $6,000 you can add about 100-120 hp into the sleepy, variocam engine. and that's what i'm doing next along with upgrading to higher 5th and 6th gears.


https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...opment-25.html


when the engine finally blows up, hopefully not before about 225,000 miles, i will be changing over to a chevrolet LS2 engine.

when these photos were taken, i was adding a bezel and ring set and adding violet/blue led lights to frontlight to the instrument panel.


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Old 01-30-2010 | 11:20 AM
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Last year I drove a 5spd 944 NA to work for a couple months. Just right for the commute. 15:1 more unsolicited comments then when driving any of these 928s, too. Gotta have another one. Not sure what went wrong with yours. Parts are extremely reasonable and available. If you couldn't keep it healthy and sold it for that reason, why would you consider a more exotic 968 or 928?

For me the 944 nose and tail go together, the 928 nose and tail match, and the 968 is freaky.


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