Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

HER GTS stalls, runs rough

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-12-2010, 09:04 AM
  #16  
SeanR
Rennlist Member
 
SeanR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 35,700
Received 500 Likes on 267 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jim M.
I vote for the fuel pump and/or fuel filter. Mine just did the same thing, reversing the polarity on the electrical connections freed up the jambed main pump, but the internal pump was DOA. Also the connecting hose had failed (2nd pic). Replaced them both as a safety precaution. I also opened up the fuel filter to find the filtering media almost completly black. (1st pic)

Lets try this again with pics.
I'm sure the way your intank was keeping things circulating, the tank is pretty clean though.
Old 01-12-2010, 09:39 AM
  #17  
Brent
Three Wheelin'
 
Brent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 1,250
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Let's all post pictures of our failed internal fuel pump. Now I think I should have gone the Andrew Olson route. Good luck Cheryl, I'm sure Randy has got this one.


Last edited by Brent; 01-12-2010 at 10:53 AM.
Old 01-12-2010, 10:20 AM
  #18  
Cheryl Carter
Racer
Thread Starter
 
Cheryl Carter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: IN DRAG. AGAIN.
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Let's all post pictures of our failed internal fuel pump. Now I think I should have gone the Andrew Olson route. Good luck Cheryl, I'm sure Randy got this one.
Sorry Brent, unless I draw him a picture in one of his coloring books he doesn't catch on very fast.

Thanks to all of you for your suggestions, I'll update the thread when we finish the repairs.
Old 01-12-2010, 10:22 AM
  #19  
928Luv2
7th Gear
 
928Luv2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Check your ignition modules.
Old 01-12-2010, 10:52 AM
  #20  
Giovanni
Race Car
 
Giovanni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Alabama
Posts: 4,269
Received 25 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

To keep track of how your boosted car is running you will need at least a set of Fuel Pressure gauge and Air/Fuel meter guage, preferably also a booster gauge.
Old 02-20-2010, 01:47 PM
  #21  
SeanR
Rennlist Member
 
SeanR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 35,700
Received 500 Likes on 267 Posts
Default

Bump, Just got off the phone with Randy. The car is at his local wrench and both pumps have been replaced and the car is running......but. It's blowing huge amounts of black smoke. We talked about a few of the possibilities..

Thoughts?
Old 02-20-2010, 01:58 PM
  #22  
Mrmerlin
Team Owner
 
Mrmerlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philly PA
Posts: 28,273
Received 2,453 Likes on 1,378 Posts
Default

I would swap the Brains into a known good running car and see if the problem transfers

Of course there is also the question what was the last thing you fixed??
Is this car a NA car or is it boosted??
Could the wire connection have come off the MAF or possibly a loose intake connection. What do the coil wires look like, remove both of them and inspect the ends
Old 02-20-2010, 02:07 PM
  #23  
SeanR
Rennlist Member
 
SeanR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 35,700
Received 500 Likes on 267 Posts
Default

Stan, it's Joe's supercharged car. All that was changed were the fuel pumps. New internal, 044 pump and filter. He's in the middle of BFE. I dont know what has been done to the brains on this one, but suppose swapping the brains from his other GTS 'might' assist.
Old 02-20-2010, 04:38 PM
  #24  
Joe Dyer
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joe Dyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SeanR
Stan, it's Joe's supercharged car. All that was changed were the fuel pumps. New internal, 044 pump and filter. He's in the middle of BFE. I dont know what has been done to the brains on this one, but suppose swapping the brains from his other GTS 'might' assist.
Brains are stock. External pump was higher pressure add on. I'm quizing Marc/Susan for fuel rail pressure...

Joe
Old 02-20-2010, 06:16 PM
  #25  
Hilton
Nordschleife Master
 
Hilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ɹəpun uʍop 'ʎəupʎs
Posts: 6,282
Received 55 Likes on 45 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SeanR
Bump, Just got off the phone with Randy. The car is at his local wrench and both pumps have been replaced and the car is running......but. It's blowing huge amounts of black smoke. We talked about a few of the possibilities..

Thoughts?
Like Stan asked - is the MAF connector loose?

Does the car run the same or worse with the MAF disconnected?

Limp-home mode (no MAF signal present at LH) is hugely rich by default and would cause black clouds of soot.

Being a boosted car, its gonna be a little tricky to remote diagnose..

Frankly it might well be cheaper to fly someone out to the car who's familiar with boosted 928's, tuning, and has a Sharktuner II.
Old 02-20-2010, 08:26 PM
  #26  
Tom. M
Deleted
Rennlist Member
 
Tom. M's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 5,444
Received 194 Likes on 116 Posts
Default

My GT when it had the rear turbo on there did similar when the MAF was messed up. I'd check there first...try running it without the MAF connected and if it runs better (default allows for idle and about 3k rpm..get home mode) then that is the issue.

Good Luck,
Old 02-20-2010, 09:26 PM
  #27  
Randy Carter
Rennlist Member
 
Randy Carter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Texas
Posts: 3,254
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Posted by Xlot
Frankly it might well be cheaper to fly someone out to the car who's familiar with boosted 928's, tuning, and has a Sharktuner II.
Sounds like vacation time for somebody. Shame we don't live on the French Riviera!

Fortunately we have the stock '93 we can swap parts on if need be. Thanks, guys for all your suggestions. I'll go into town on Monday with a list of things to try. I'll let y'all know what we find out.
Gracias!
Old 02-20-2010, 09:28 PM
  #28  
SeanR
Rennlist Member
 
SeanR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 35,700
Received 500 Likes on 267 Posts
Default

I wish I was a bit closer to assist, we've got a double remote diag going on.

Thanks guys.
Old 02-20-2010, 09:36 PM
  #29  
Randy Carter
Rennlist Member
 
Randy Carter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Texas
Posts: 3,254
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Might be pig huntin' time.
Thanks for the help Sean.
Massa' and I gonna' watch a movie now so we'll check ya later.
R
Old 02-20-2010, 09:50 PM
  #30  
Jim R.
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Jim R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Long Island and Lake George, NY
Posts: 917
Received 10 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Make sure the MAF is seated well and bolted down into the boot. If it pushes out, the car will be metering for a lot more air than what it is getting, running pretty rich and rough. You can usually look through the intake manifold on the driver's side with a flashlight to check.

Jim


Quick Reply: HER GTS stalls, runs rough



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:35 AM.