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Old 12-26-2009, 05:42 PM
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Your paint looks very much like Athrazite grey metallic. Listed as a non-standard color here which would explain the paint code.

http://landsharkoz.com/htm/sc/colourns.htm
Old 12-26-2009, 06:33 PM
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My car has that same code, but my color is Prussian Blue Metallic, which is a standard color for 1986.
Old 12-26-2009, 06:40 PM
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My car has that same code, but my color is Prussian Blue Metallic, which is a standard color for 1986.
Hmm. The charts show Prussian Metallic Blue should be 33X. Strange.
Old 12-26-2009, 08:55 PM
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No doubt
Old 12-26-2009, 08:58 PM
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No doubt
I have run across lots of weird things like that over the years.

One fun one I always watch for is sticker placement, especially under the hood. There is a "right" way to do it according to the manuals but I swear I've seen cars with the stickers put in all kinds of weird places and I know for a fact lots of them were factory placements, they just don't match the documents.

The documentation on hand built cars is fuzzy I guess.....
Old 12-26-2009, 09:55 PM
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Glad they do not take off points for show like Ferrari does if a sticker is wrong or in the wrong location. Thanks for the info on the paint from "down under" Guess I will check the leather against BMW then also since it is not on any list I can find.
Old 12-26-2009, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jayc67

The documentation on hand built cars is fuzzy I guess.....
The 928 really is NOT hand built they all went down an assembly line ! true no robots but not really "hand built" in the traditional sense.
Old 12-26-2009, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
The 928 really is NOT hand built they all went down an assembly line ! true no robots but not really "hand built" in the traditional sense.
Neither are the Rolls BUT they are considered that since so much HAND work is done for fit not just bolt and go. Tell the RROC that the car is NOT hand built and you are in for an hour debate about that.
Old 12-26-2009, 10:09 PM
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The 928 really is NOT hand built they all went down an assembly line ! true no robots but not really "hand built" in the traditional sense.
Well, the final fit and finish, sticker application, that sort of thing was hand done and it's pretty clear that there is a wide variation in how things left the factory as compared to a real hard core "assembly line" setup like you'd find in Detroit.

With the ability to order the car in any color under the sun it's no surprise the codes don't always match.
Old 12-26-2009, 10:17 PM
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Sorry guys but the 928 was done on an assembly line and a fender from one fits just fine on another the factory was shared with 911 swho went together an a parrellel assembly line . The factory had a 5,000 unt per year 928 capability and most years did far less. Reason being they could not SELL the cars ! It is NOT hand made Hand built or hand fitted it is an assembly line car.....nothing wrong with that simply how it is !
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The point isn't whether or not it meets the definition of "hand built" but rather with so many individual options there are often documentation mismatches due to the individual assembly of options and paperwork.

Like the above paint code for a factory standard paint being listed as a color match custom. Like the metal bar behind the center console being hand bent to allow fitment of the in dash temp sensor. Like the underhood stickers being placed in non standard locations. That kind of thing happens a lot on a car with a high variety of options and low production numbers and some hand fitting.

Things like that would make the Corvette guys call a car a "fake" and lower its' value, but for these cars it's not uncommon at all. When it happens to 50 Vettes out of a yearly production of 40,000 cars the faith that restorers can place in the documentation is fairly strong. When it happens to 50 928's out of a yearly production of 3,000 it's enough to make the documentation not completely reliable for folks researching and restoring their cars.
Old 12-27-2009, 12:14 AM
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Back then, most cars in Europe were build like that but that doesn't make it a hand built. Porsche's book keeping was maybe not the best and perhaps the QC was not that important when it came to tings like stickers.
My brother's '70 280 SEL has hand carved wood panles, every single one is unique and you can not just bolt on one from another......those parts are hald build, not the 928.
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From what I see everyday, the leather in the cars compared to the leather CODE for the cars is just a good guess. They get a batch of hydes called CORK and they put them in a bin for CORK then the grab a hyde and say it is CORK. the problem is that the dye lot for CORK A is different than the dye lot from CORK B so no match.
Look in your cars and see how many different colors you have in there and you get the idea. This is just how it is done when you build 400 instead of 30,000.
Hand built, YES the seats are for sure.
As I stated this conversation is a circle with no end in sight.



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