clutch slave problems /question
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clutch slave problems /question
I had the clutch hyd system bled and seemed to be working fine, but needed to take off the lower bell housing to check out this other issue I had with rubbing of the flywheel. when I was putting it back on, i was futsing around with the slave that was mounted to the bell, to be fancy and not remove it and re-install and i got the little shaft stuck, that when I pulled the lower bell housing down to start over, the shaft had pulled out of the slave, but it pulled out the insides with it too. (the inner rubber boot) how do you reinstall the rubber boot when it is pulled out all the way , inside out??? It has a small hole in the end that the shaft fits into, so if I push on it, the shaft just slides through and the boot only goes half way in the slave. does the boot have to be all the way in the slave ? If so, how do I get it back in there?
the other issue, unrelated, I was trying to get a push on the shaft through the slave while it was on the bell housing, just removed, and the shaft wouldnt go back in the slave cylinder, to push the fluid back up in to the reservoir, which is a trick I used a few weeks ago that seemed to put the final touches on the bleeding and then got a good clutch pedal. since Ive been driving it around the block a few times, the pedal was pretty good, but not perfect. any reason why suddenly the shaft doesnt want to go back through the slave and push fluid any more. plus, it doesnt want to mate up to the bell housing now, because the shaft seems to be locked in position and wont retract.
any help would be appriciated.
Mark
the other issue, unrelated, I was trying to get a push on the shaft through the slave while it was on the bell housing, just removed, and the shaft wouldnt go back in the slave cylinder, to push the fluid back up in to the reservoir, which is a trick I used a few weeks ago that seemed to put the final touches on the bleeding and then got a good clutch pedal. since Ive been driving it around the block a few times, the pedal was pretty good, but not perfect. any reason why suddenly the shaft doesnt want to go back through the slave and push fluid any more. plus, it doesnt want to mate up to the bell housing now, because the shaft seems to be locked in position and wont retract.
any help would be appriciated.
Mark
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If the boot pulled out, you're f*cked.
ok maybe not.
Pull it out until it's as far as it will go. The inner-most portion has a rubber ring that seats into the notch on the pushrod. Hold it tightly in one hand and work the rod into it until it seats, using liberal amounts of swearing. Once it's seated, push it back in and the boot will naturally fold itself back up. I do this all the time when installing the flywheel lock.
ok maybe not.
Pull it out until it's as far as it will go. The inner-most portion has a rubber ring that seats into the notch on the pushrod. Hold it tightly in one hand and work the rod into it until it seats, using liberal amounts of swearing. Once it's seated, push it back in and the boot will naturally fold itself back up. I do this all the time when installing the flywheel lock.
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It seats in the slave boot, but when I push it back in, it continues into the slave, without the boot. so the boot is half in and half out.
any idea why I cant get the shaft to push into the slave and push the fluid back in through the lines?
mk
any idea why I cant get the shaft to push into the slave and push the fluid back in through the lines?
mk
If the boot pulled out, you're f*cked.
ok maybe not. Pull it out until it's as far as it will go. The inner-most portion has a rubber ring that seats into the notch on the pushrod. Hold it tightly in one hand and work the rod into it until it seats, using liberal amounts of swearing. Once it's seated, push it back in and the boot will naturally fold itself back up. I do this all the time when installing the flywheel lock.
ok maybe not.
Pull it out until it's as far as it will go. The inner-most portion has a rubber ring that seats into the notch on the pushrod. Hold it tightly in one hand and work the rod into it until it seats, using liberal amounts of swearing. Once it's seated, push it back in and the boot will naturally fold itself back up. I do this all the time when installing the flywheel lock.
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Make sure when you say the boot is out that it's really all the way out, because you might be just pushing on that ring instead of seating inside it. That thing is TIGHT on the pushrod. Takes a real effort to get it on there right. As to the piston not compressing, with everything working it's pretty hard to push in with a new slave. Do you know where the piston actually is - full retract, full out or somewhere in the middle? Should be full out. If you push the clutch pedal in does it move further out?
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It was functioning somewhat normal, although I think I still had some air in the system. im also wondering if the pedal or master is moving the slave and shave enough. Its acting like the intermediate plate needs adjustement. Anyway, when the entire bell was removed with the slave, the shaft was inplace. when I failed to install it properly, the shaft was pulled out of the boot upon the removal of the bell. the boot was alll the way out. looked like a long catapillar. I pushed it back in with the shaft in the end of the boot hole. I got the boot about 75% in, and there is some sticking out. I gather its just a dust cover , so its not that important, so I installed it anyway. the shaft would not go inward with a lot of pressure, so I opened the bleed line and it colapsed. BUT, now I had air in the system again. after mounting it with the mounting bolts, I was able to bleed the line the traditional two man way and the pedal came back. I dont know if I can now remove the slave and push in the shaft, but that might be next as the clutch still doesnt work well. I can start it in gear and it releases fine.
Make sure when you say the boot is out that it's really all the way out, because you might be just pushing on that ring instead of seating inside it. That thing is TIGHT on the pushrod. Takes a real effort to get it on there right. As to the piston not compressing, with everything working it's pretty hard to push in with a new slave. Do you know where the piston actually is - full retract, full out or somewhere in the middle? Should be full out. If you push the clutch pedal in does it move further out?
