Speed at RPM
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Speed at RPM
Pondering the other day ... 3,000 rpm on my car is good for 80 mph and 4,000 (straight up on the tach) is 110.
Is this relationship linear, so that 5,000 rpm would be + 30 or 140mph? And 6,000 is 170? I think GTS tops out slightlyl above 170 mph so that seems somewhat consistent with the redline rpm.
Is this relationship linear, so that 5,000 rpm would be + 30 or 140mph? And 6,000 is 170? I think GTS tops out slightlyl above 170 mph so that seems somewhat consistent with the redline rpm.
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You can assume it is linear. there will be a very slight decrease due to tire slip ratio as more drive force is required with increased wind drag, and if you have an auto you will also loose a little to slip throught he torque converter. if you disreguard the slip speed is proportional to engine RPM... speed = rpm X trans gear ratio / final (differential) ratio X tire circumfrence (in inches) X 60 (converting min to hr) / 63360 (converting in to miles).
3000(RPM) X 1 (trans) / 2.54 (dif ratio) X 75 (inch circumfrence) X 60 /63360 = 83.9 MPH
3000(RPM) X 1 (trans) / 2.54 (dif ratio) X 75 (inch circumfrence) X 60 /63360 = 83.9 MPH
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Feed all known data in and result isn't far from reality.
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I think yours is an automatic so a 2.54 rear end vs 2.73 for the 5 speeds (since top gear is 1-1)...using stock sized tires 3000rpm = 87.95mph..but this is assuming no torque convertor slip...which I found to be somewhere between 0-200rpm
I think yours is an automatic so a 2.54 rear end vs 2.73 for the 5 speeds (since top gear is 1-1)...using stock sized tires 3000rpm = 87.95mph..but this is assuming no torque convertor slip...which I found to be somewhere between 0-200rpm
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Hey Sterling,
Mikes top speed would be the same as our 89' we are currently putting a 2.20 gearset into that has 630rwhp. It will be redline limited in the mid 220mph range unless he has raised his redline. 295/35-18" (26.1") @ 6400rpm would be approx 226mph. The loss through the torque converter (in this car) at 6400rpm would be minimal as would the loss through traction. I would guess the high side of 220mph. That's not taking into account any tire growth either...
Mikes top speed would be the same as our 89' we are currently putting a 2.20 gearset into that has 630rwhp. It will be redline limited in the mid 220mph range unless he has raised his redline. 295/35-18" (26.1") @ 6400rpm would be approx 226mph. The loss through the torque converter (in this car) at 6400rpm would be minimal as would the loss through traction. I would guess the high side of 220mph. That's not taking into account any tire growth either...
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Stall speed on the US converter is 1950 rpm, as in engine rpm 1950, TC output zero. What your saying is the loss goes down as the RPM goes up? When does it happen?
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yep, about 155mph in 4th gear with a 2.2 and a 26" tire. (3.2overall ratio)
The speedo is slow from the factory, so going to 25.5" tires from the stockers , will make the speedo actual. Also, the rpm vs speedo doesnt change with tire size changes.
The speedo is slow from the factory, so going to 25.5" tires from the stockers , will make the speedo actual. Also, the rpm vs speedo doesnt change with tire size changes.
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Righto. It's real speed that changes.
Eyeballing my car it'll redline (6500) at about 182 MPH. I've only done 147 indicated, but it's pulling hard there. 2.75 rear end, if you were wondering.
The trick, as our ORR friends have alluded to, is that the power needed goes up really strongly with speed. The power consumed to move a body through a liquid varies as the cube of the velocity. (Well, roughly.) It takes 8 times as much power to go 200 MPH as 100 MPH.
Eyeballing my car it'll redline (6500) at about 182 MPH. I've only done 147 indicated, but it's pulling hard there. 2.75 rear end, if you were wondering.
The trick, as our ORR friends have alluded to, is that the power needed goes up really strongly with speed. The power consumed to move a body through a liquid varies as the cube of the velocity. (Well, roughly.) It takes 8 times as much power to go 200 MPH as 100 MPH.
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