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Old 09-25-2009, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by krasuskyp View Post
Chuck your contribution with the Registry is amazing and you obviously know these cars and know it, and I was by no means discounting that or calling you a keyboard jockey - but - you can deny the general conjecture. Don't think I had any venom / name calling tho, that's a stretch. Remember, this wasn't a post about 'what is it worth' that was seeking debate (the type of post you refer to above where you could predict where it was going), it was merely a heads up on something cool.

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No need to apologize to me with 'sorry to inform me', nothing lost here. I was hoping I was helping someone out who might want something like this - I'll certainly think better of it next time something cool comes up. That's unfortunate, I know I always enjoy hearing of such things.

Tho... careful Chuck with the "as a 911 owner" bit, you don't know me from boo, what I know / don't know... *that's* conjecture.
You're absolutely right on two accounts! One, this was a FS post not a valuation post..... Two, as opinionated as I am, I will always own up to statements like that one..... Saying "as a 911 owner" and speculating as to your knowledge regarding 928 values is purely conjecture on my part as I don't know you or what you know. Paul, I'm Chuck. Nice to meet you.

Like you, I enjoy knowing about cars like this one whether it be 911, 914, 356 or whatever! I knew this post would turn in to a dust up as soon as I saw your post. Thanks for posting about this car and the fact that it was for sale! This is a very opinionated group (both sides of this discussion). I was serious though that it is unlikely anyone on this or other forums will buy the car. Tom is correct in that it would probably have been more effective to put it on autotrader to find a serious buyer......

In spite of what the vocal minority says, cars like this are absolute treasures and need to go to the right home at least for posterity's sake?
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:06 PM
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Paul I think its important to realize that the 928 crowd on Rennlist can be tough at times and very critical. I know from experience that it takes time for new owners to truly feel at home here. It has nothing to do with snobbery but I think I can put a finger on what it does have to do with. Many people come onto the 928 forum asking for advice, help etc. and take advantage of the wealth of knowledge and helpful nature of everyone here. But many of these owners only use the info to improve and turn a profit on the car (dealerships and private parties). After a while you get a group that is critical of any newcomers until they show they are genuinely interested in keeping the car on the road and passionate about owning it.

Since you rarely post here its not surprising to see the response you received. If Chuck posted something like this I can guarantee the response would have been different.

Regardless, I know you are offering up an opportunity of a lifetime to Rennlister to own a piece of history and a very very good price. If someone here has the means they should most certainly snap it up rather than being critical.

Either way good luck with the sale...hope it goes to a good owner.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:25 PM
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This thread and what it has "devolved" to is why I and many others would never sell a car here. It cracks me up how so many have opinions on what could be wrong, sight unseen. I and others are more than happy to go put eyeballs on cars in our area that are for sale and have done so many times. These are the only "opinions" I attach any value to.
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:45 PM
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I knew early on Michael Willhoit bought this car and that eventually he would send me an update for my site when the details were worked out and he had the car in his possession. Today, I received that update:

--> Willhoit Enterprises has purchased the car and will be selling with an asking price of $109,500! <--


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Old 10-06-2009, 02:53 PM
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Willhoit Enterprises has purchased the car and will be selling with an asking price of $109,500!
I hope he gets it!
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:54 PM
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NO...NO...NO... Supply and demand rules. Look at our friend and RL from Dubai he is prepared to spend 2-3 times the amount of money to his 87 that he loves.

The only question is can you afford it and if so than why not?

In a way we all do the same at perhaps a different level because we love these cars.

Happy motoring to all
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:58 PM
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$109,500!!! Gad!
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:06 PM
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WOW...$109k......good luck with that in this economy......especially since he bought it for around $60k....and it wouldn't be hard for someone to figure that out....
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Z View Post
I knew early on Michael Willhoit bought this car and that eventually he would send me an update for my site when the details were worked out and he had the car in his possession. Today, I received that update:

--> Willhoit Enterprises has purchased the car and will be selling with an asking price of $109,500! <--
Please reference back to post #3 of this thread. If you failed to heed the warning and took shrapnel to the face, neck and head when the Willhoit shell landed among us, blame nobody but yourself.
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:21 PM
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WOW...$109k......good luck with that in this economy......especially since he bought it for around $60k....and it wouldn't be hard for someone to figure that out....
We shouldn't speculate about what MW paid for it since you probably don't know the whole story. The original owner traded the car in and MW bought it from that dealer so we don't really know what he paid for it (maybe more, maybe less?). I seriously doubt any potential buyer is going to see this discussion or perhaps that buyer would have already bought the car from the original owner? It's not likely to be anyone here either, this post was made as an update only. If he gets anywhere close to his asking price it's good for all/most 928 values.... I hope he holds the line and gets all of it especially in light of the 94 GTS 5M with 6k miles he sold recently for $92,500.
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:58 PM
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I hope MW gets every last penny of $109k for that car. It can only help the values of our cars and bring more attention to them, hopefully in a good way. I don't think there will be a great demand for our cars any time soon as they still live in obscurity to most car enthusiasts.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:07 PM
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So was it ever seriously available for $62k or anything remotely close to that figure?

I see this mostly as how failure to offer a car in a business like manner costs the seller thousands of dollars.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:09 PM
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Demand exists for collector quality cars and a premium is often paid. This has been proven time and time again even in the current economy. The wealthy collectors are not affected and $100K is a drop in teh bucket for many of them, its silly to think otherwise.

MW will get something close to his asking I'm sure.

I'm disappointed that the seller didn't stick to his guns and seek out a true enthusiast but I guess the saying "Money Talks" may have something to do with it. Can't blame him since no one immediately stepped to the plate.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:18 PM
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OUR OPINION IS THE "ECONOMY" HAS ABSOLUTLY "NO" EFFECT ON THE SALE OF THIS RARE PIECE OF GERMAN CRAFTMANSHIP !! THE BUYER OF THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE LIGHTER IN THE JEANS THESE DAYS, BUT IT WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN HIS DECISION TO BUY PERHAPS THE "BEST OF THE LAST" ONCE HE OR SHE REALIZES IT IS REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY FOR SALE AND CAN BE PURCHASED !!!
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by danglerb View Post
So was it ever seriously available for $62k or anything remotely close to that figure?

I see this mostly as how failure to offer a car in a business like manner costs the seller thousands of dollars.
Yes, I believe it was truly for sale to anyone with the $. It was snapped up pretty quickly by someone who understands the current collector quality 928 GTS market. Like it or not, that IS reality.

I see this more as someone who wasn't necessarily in touch with the current market. When the original owner offered the car for sale several years ago he was ahead of the market in terms of price and over the years was not necessarily in touch with where current values were and ultimately sold it well below the market based on his past experiences while trying to sell it. Just my opinion......
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