Hey Curt can you text me your number. Didn't get saved on my phone. I'll let you know how it went tomorrow. Thanks.

 

I don't know if it will be any use, but I have a 4.5L unit that has been disassembled completely. IDK if the cylinders are good, but if anyone local to MD knows something about it, they are welcome to come have a look. If it's good, I'd be more than willing to give it away, so long as end user paid shipping. It has everything but fuel system. You can PM me and I can take some pics of all the pieces and send them over. Again, I guess if it's a 4.5 and you want a 4.7, cylinder integrity don't matter since you'd bore it anyway. Either way, that **** is just taking up space in my shed, and I'd like to see it go to good use.

 

No affiliation.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...Q5fAccessories

I'm not saying this is the one for you, but is merely an example of the availability and approximate cost of what it appears you need.

 

thats a nice project engine , i would be looking for one that has been running with the head gaskets already replaced.
The sitting part makes things more difficult to figure out .
IE after installation of this engine the compression is low in 3 cyls, just a possibility

 

The dealer is telling me that they did a compression test with 164 lowest and 176 highest. They are saying that they looked in the cylinder walls with the scope and that the sides still have "hatch marks" (no clue what that is) and that nothing is bent. I don't know if they're pulling my leg or not I hate to think that way but since they mis-diagnosed the car they may trying to save their own butt. If the car runs I'll do a leak down test and take it from there. See ya.

 

Alusil engines don't have "hatch marks". If it does, thats a problem

I can get you a 4.5 L short block for a few hundred dollars locally. Let me know if your interested.

 

Fabio,
I am not denigrating your offer to help but why would he want a 4.5L short block when his car currently has a 4.7L?
There are plenty of 4.7L engines out there. Just saying.

 

Hatch marks is wrong for the 928. Alusil blocks should have a smooth finish - the irregularities that expose the silicon are at the microscopic level.

Either they don't know the 928, or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes and tell you what they want you to believe. Either way, you should phone Porsche USA and request a specialist 928-trained mechanic be involved in the case. I also wouldn't remove the vehicle from the dealership until its been looked at by the specialist, and repaired to your satisfaction.

I know that the temptation to just move on and get it repaired elsewhere is great, so you could be out driving sooner. However, frankly you'd come out ahead money-wise using that repair money to just buy another 928 in the current market, and end up with two after yours is repaired

They had a duty of care to fix your car, and instead left it running worse than when you took it in, as well as charging you for the privilege.

Go through the proper official channels - escalate it up the corporate food chain, and you'll get it resolved, it just takes time to do, which sucks given its none of your doing to get to this stage.

Best of luck with it!

Hilton.

 

Oh really? You coulda fooled me. Why don't you find him a short block, local to him, for $200 and then I'll STFU.

This seems to be becoming a habit with you lately. https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-hr-of-lemons-

 

You hit the nail on the head with your comments. You've summarize exactly what happened. They are going to try to overpower me with their rhetorical crap but the fact remains that they did not diagnose the car properly and released the car to me twice as "fixed" when they had two opportunities to correct it. It's actually pathetic.

 

Sorry if I have offended you Fabio. Not my intention at all.

Regarding the other thread, I started posting, got sidetracked and came back and finished the post. In the meantime, you posted the product fix. I wasn't previously aware of anyone having lasting success with fuel tank repair. My apologies.

I think we are after the same thing here. Just trying to help him get his car fixed.

 

The comment about the hatch marks from a Certified Porsche mechanic really gets me. If they really are knowledgable about these cars, they would know that no watercooled front engine Porsche in the 80's had "hatch marked" cylinder walls.

What an idiot if you ask me.

 

The comment about the hatch marks from a Certified Porsche mechanic really gets me. If they really are knowledgable about these cars, they would know that no watercooled front engine Porsche in the 80's had "hatch marked" cylinder walls.

What an idiot if you ask me.

 

I have been speaking to Fabian apparently his car hydro locked on the second return trip after shutting it off, waiting on the Shop Supervisor. He went for a coffee came back they were pushing his car in the bay. They informed him it was hydro-locked after it would not turn over. I told him to find out if was gas or coolant, they said # 6 & 7 was flooded with fuel. Considering they removed all the injectors and bench tested them I would assume an issue with dirt. Diagnosis showed the compression numbers were all good along the brand new looking hatch marks on the cylinder . Unless some one rebuilt this motor at 10K and honed it, hatch marks will not be apparent. The dealer was going to replace the two injectors but Fabian decided to get the whole set rebuilt. I suggested he request a leak down test along with a coolant pressure and fuel pressure test. He has a fuel pressure gauge on the rail and from the time he stopped the car and opened the hood pressure was at 0. This could be the one way valve or stuck open inj, guess what I think it is. This official Porsche Dealer has a good reputation and I hope they take care of him. He came in with a drive-ability problem, they replaced fuel pressure regulator, dampener and cleaned the injectors. He leaves in a trail of smoke, after the dealer let the car idle for hours, stating it was a oil separation issue. They said that year car; "per a Porsche bulletin", (They said it would burn off ) Well he brings it back it and it locks up with 2-cylinders full of fuel. That said I would hope they make it right or the good reputation will be in question not only in the forum but locally. You need to ask Fabian how it is progressing and where it is headed. I did find it interesting that they did not want to do a leak down test, saying it takes to long to do all 8-cylinders. Did I miss something or was a compression test not done and a bore scope used to give it a thumbs up. If and when this comes to a conclusion I would suggest having the shop manger go for a test drive. I know anyone on this site would have found and corrected the problem by now and not refuse to do further testing to make sure its tested and verified before releasing it. I found the comment from the dealer about this forum interesting! He could always jump on and explain his side or who knows ask for a little help.
My 928 cents worth, I'm a little pixxed about they way this is coming down and hope it can take a positive direction. It takes a ton of money to build a reputation a few bad comments to ruin it.

 

THANK YOU so much for taking the time to basically summarize my situation. I could not have done it better myself. I will say again that the service manager is the nicest guy you could ever deal with but now his mechanic has driven a wedge between him and I and I'm saddened by this. I understand that he will back his mechanic up but at some point someone has to take responsability for their mistake. The mechanic made a human mistake and the mis diagnosis and I can understand that but at the end of the day that should be the cost of doing business or overhead or call it wherever you want to call it but they can't just say oopps!, lock up the engine because of their actions or lack thereof, tell me to smile for the picture and send me on my way without even doing a complete leakdown test at the very least to compensate for the sotuation. THe service manager did offer to do it on two cylinders but said that is was too time consuming to do all 8. Then he said "by the way, I need the loaner that we gave you back". I almost fell out of my chair. I'm going through hell her with this and they won't even pay to rebuild my injectors at $15 dollars each. I just don't understand that. I'm in the suffering end of this. I helped my girlfriend to buy two Range Rovers at the place. A 2006 Range R. and a 2008 RANGE R. Sport. That's around 150K in cars between accessories bought after and repairs on the 2006.
This is turning out to be a confusing issue but it really isn't. All that happened here is this. Took the car in for XYZ problem. Picked it up and left with a huge smoking problem and was assured up and down the repair bay that it was an oil separation problem that would go away eventually and also left with a car that was misfiring same as it was when it was brought in. The car was not properly diagnosed, returned the car to them, was not properly diagnosed again and as a result the engine locked up. Now I can't even ask for a full leakdown test, being asked to return the freaking loaner and they won't even pay to rebuild to injectors?#&!#!@# I've been trying to avoid harsh measures becauseof the service Mgr. he really is a nice guy even after all this but niceness is not getting me anywhere. The mechanic caused this!! I already paid my initial bill of $500 dollars why should I spend another cent on this car because of their wrong doing? They should be the ones offering TO ME the full leakdown and the injectors rebuilt to kind of do damage control but instead they want their loaner back? I'm flabbergasted.