View Poll Results: S4 or OB which one is going to strand you on the road?
OB
10
14.93%
S4
35
52.24%
Both are equal
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32.84%
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Poll: S4 or OB which one is more likely to strand you?
07-05-2009, 04:27 PM
#16
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ANY...I MEAN ANY..25 to 30 year old car NOT maintained well will leave to walking. This poll is very misleading.
That being said my sons 1980 OB and my 89 S4 will drive across this country and back without issue. I know a few 4 year old cars that can't claim that.
The ONLY reason these cars have a bad reputation is OWNERS ( past or present or both ) that don't or won't maintain their car. These cars do tell you when there is a problem...just learn to listen.
BTW...I could bring myself to vote for any of the choices. Body and motor design in this case have no bearing on which would leave you walking IMHO.
That being said my sons 1980 OB and my 89 S4 will drive across this country and back without issue. I know a few 4 year old cars that can't claim that.
The ONLY reason these cars have a bad reputation is OWNERS ( past or present or both ) that don't or won't maintain their car. These cars do tell you when there is a problem...just learn to listen.
BTW...I could bring myself to vote for any of the choices. Body and motor design in this case have no bearing on which would leave you walking IMHO.
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07-05-2009, 04:55 PM
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OB with CIS. Never had to tow one.................yet. It really is all about the money. All other things being equal the car that has the proper sorting out will not strand you. Our first (78 USA 5sd) came with $17,000.00 in receipts that represented "sorting out" done in the previous 3,000 miles. We flew to a city 550 miles away and drove it home. Other than having to use a flash light to read the dash it performed great. Since then mostly repair of failing components. However I do insist that my wife carry a cell phone and a readily accessable fire exstinguisher.
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07-05-2009, 07:03 PM
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Because the 78-79 cars all have CIS fuel injection. Purely mechanical and not a computer on the thing. There are some other things that aren't a sharp break like 3-speed autos and no spoilers. And cooler interiors. OB was created as shorthand for "Ol' Bugger."
CIS cars, having much simpler FI and ignition systems, are much less likely to leave you stranded.
CIS cars, having much simpler FI and ignition systems, are much less likely to leave you stranded.
And quite some time in the old daily's - we can thank Jay....
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...100-miles.html
As well as in post 27 of the new visiter - please read this before you post...
The Ol' Bugger term was coined for the 78, 79, and 80 CIS vintage - so yes, the 80 with CIS is a Ol' Bugger - in other words - a dependable, non computerized 928!
My '85 Euro is not a OB - my 86.5 is not a OB - just because some folks wish they had a OB, doesn't mean they can buy a Older Body style car and change the original meaning of OB so they can say they own one.
No computer - even if the cold start gives you a problem, she will still sart and get you home!
Fouled injector - still starts, fouled distributer, still starts - when components do start going south on the OB's, you have a warning period where she just runs rough.... but she gets you home.
My 86.5 left me stranded, the '87, the '88, and the '90 S4's also left me stranded.
I must say, all of these stranding's were before they were sorted, and once sorted they never failed again.
07-05-2009, 09:10 PM
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This is a Mensa Test Question.
The 928 most likely to strand me is a 1989 black S4. It would be different if I had an OB instead.
Pass the popcorn, please.
The 928 most likely to strand me is a 1989 black S4. It would be different if I had an OB instead.
Pass the popcorn, please.
07-05-2009, 09:29 PM
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Four out of six times that a 928 has stranded me it was a relay relay relay relay then a broken timing belt plus the engine that ate a bolt and split a cylinder.....that one was interesting plumes of white smoke !
07-05-2009, 11:25 PM
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Mechanical control systems tend to degrade slowly. Electrical systems crap out suddenly.
I've only been towed from the track and those are other stories.
07-06-2009, 04:06 AM
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07-06-2009, 01:09 PM
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I will agree on the CIS, It is a very simple easy to maintain injection . All three of my vw's have it, and I have not yet once had to tow any of them home an two 86 jettas, and a 92 passat. I keep FP jumper wires in my tool bag just in case the relay overheats, and a spare FP. CIS, will always re-start... just depends on your knowledge of the system. Different versions of CIS, have different parts that are essential to system operation. But the constant is the FP, and the relay! Without those your not going anywhere! What's even more amazing is the relay between a CIS injected VW from the 80's is the same relay as the 80 928 I just bought, the vw's have wider prongs on 30/87 terminals... That's it.
I vote OB, but have no experience with an S4, so I won't vote because I'll skew your data!
I vote OB, but have no experience with an S4, so I won't vote because I'll skew your data!
07-06-2009, 04:27 PM
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Damn it... the guy at the gas station said it would work.
