FS: 85'+ twinscrew intercooled kit, still in the box
01-21-2010, 02:39 AM
#46
Looks like that's a cell phone number.
http://www.phonedetective.com/PD.asp...pho=8478303748
It also looks like that Deana Klopsch lives at 802 S Edgewood Ave there in Mount Prospect, IL., and the house phone number is unlisted.
http://www.whitepages.com/10866/sear...caltime=survey
Driveway there could use some sealing if you ask me. That and they could use some shade near the pool too.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/80.../3453025_zpid/
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour....panoramio.all
http://www.phonedetective.com/PD.asp...pho=8478303748
It also looks like that Deana Klopsch lives at 802 S Edgewood Ave there in Mount Prospect, IL., and the house phone number is unlisted.
http://www.whitepages.com/10866/sear...caltime=survey
Driveway there could use some sealing if you ask me. That and they could use some shade near the pool too.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/80.../3453025_zpid/
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour....panoramio.all
01-21-2010, 04:43 AM
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I just masked his last name there.
Will edit my initial message, since someone already revealed it. Sorry for confusion.
And yea, guys, I do have a lot of private info about him, like phone numbers, addresses, etc, but they are practically of no use to me since I live on the other side of the globe and can't come knocking on his door.
And that's probably the main reason I got in this story...
Also, thanks a lot for your efforts, it surely is nice to see people willing to help in resolving the situation.
01-21-2010, 02:06 PM
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“Alex” wanted to buy a supercharger kit from us.
Alex did contact my son about a supercharger kit for sale. Since my son used my business tools to do the transaction while he worked for me, I will address this situation—referred to as “we”--- my son and I, because I feel partially responsible about not watching him close enough with oversight to supervise him properly:
This became extremely alarming below---And we did not know about this up front or we wouldn’t have gotten involved into some Russian mafia like transaction.
It turns out "Alex" is not Alex at all, he revealed later he was Andrew Yetin. He wanted to avoid paying Russian import tax under his personal name and identity so he has created a false identity and uses a global parts mover, Partex, that has Russian and New York locations . Sounds illegal? After thinking about it for a while, it most likely is. But then if that wasn’t enough, he later revealed that this Yetin name wasn’t his real name either. None of this we understood before it was too late.
He told me to make an invoice to Partex, not “Alex” or "Andrew Yetin" (his made up 2nd name) or his other alias (maybe his real name?), which I have not revealed yet.
He also wanted me to source a different part to him, and then hide it in the kit and not list it on the invoice or tell even Partex, he did receive that part in Box #1 that made it there.
Once we got a wire from him and shipped the product, we became nervous when we heard the parts went missing or damaged according to UPS written reports. We have all the UPS numbers with the exceptions listed on them. Would or could he be able to reverse the wire because the invoice was for Partex, and nobody knows his real name? Did Partex receive the items and are just not telling us? How would we know or not? Obviously this transaction is not above board on “Alex’s” end, so as this goes along, it looks more suspicious and is more worrisome.
Our invoice shows one kit and a shipping charge, with no insurance or declared value established on the invoice. We paid extra out of our pockets to insure this heavy shipment for us, and it was our policy, not theirs. We did so for a reason, as you can see above, the events like this would make anyone nervous and wonder how this would end.
Once 3 of 4 packages went missing, he "Alex" started tacking on hundreds of dollars in extra costs outside of the “missing” packages that he wanted us to pay for, that we never saw in the first place, and wanted them added to the amount we owed him, or some alias.
He also claimed that he did not get all the parts in Box #1 (of 4), and even though acknowledging the parts, he put no value on it and told us we owed him more than should have been.
My son wanted to pay him back after all these weird things going on, but I am not certain he is required to, or should. If he knew was dealing with a bizarre black market operation, he should have asked for triple and --in cash, not that it was ever a good idea to begin with. Will we be getting a call from some sovereign nations tax department because the not “Alex” has been playing some tax dodging shell game? We hope we don’t, because we didn’t put this situation together until later.
And another weird thing, he never gave us a bank account number of his, if we did owe him something, he just wanted us to locate him a better supercharger kit than original and send it to Partex… again. And that is why we were asking for one on here more recently. I don’t know why we bothered trying, we should have just walked then
Lesson learned: Our first and last overseas transaction. Stupid us, because we didn't listen to all those craigslist warnings about overseas shipping of items.
So, whether right or wrong, or if your mind is made up or not, that is my 2 cents, and I am not going to open up to a bunch of fielded questions from the peanut gallery on rennlist who may be friends or not with him, and turn this situation into an even bigger pile of crap than it already is. I don’t think it’s the appropriate place to do this. But if he wants to continue, we should start with his Russian birth certificate and registered name departments, Russian citizen’s tax and import auditing department, and a customs and shipping audit of Partex.
Warren
Alex did contact my son about a supercharger kit for sale. Since my son used my business tools to do the transaction while he worked for me, I will address this situation—referred to as “we”--- my son and I, because I feel partially responsible about not watching him close enough with oversight to supervise him properly:
This became extremely alarming below---And we did not know about this up front or we wouldn’t have gotten involved into some Russian mafia like transaction.
It turns out "Alex" is not Alex at all, he revealed later he was Andrew Yetin. He wanted to avoid paying Russian import tax under his personal name and identity so he has created a false identity and uses a global parts mover, Partex, that has Russian and New York locations . Sounds illegal? After thinking about it for a while, it most likely is. But then if that wasn’t enough, he later revealed that this Yetin name wasn’t his real name either. None of this we understood before it was too late.
He told me to make an invoice to Partex, not “Alex” or "Andrew Yetin" (his made up 2nd name) or his other alias (maybe his real name?), which I have not revealed yet.
He also wanted me to source a different part to him, and then hide it in the kit and not list it on the invoice or tell even Partex, he did receive that part in Box #1 that made it there.
Once we got a wire from him and shipped the product, we became nervous when we heard the parts went missing or damaged according to UPS written reports. We have all the UPS numbers with the exceptions listed on them. Would or could he be able to reverse the wire because the invoice was for Partex, and nobody knows his real name? Did Partex receive the items and are just not telling us? How would we know or not? Obviously this transaction is not above board on “Alex’s” end, so as this goes along, it looks more suspicious and is more worrisome.
Our invoice shows one kit and a shipping charge, with no insurance or declared value established on the invoice. We paid extra out of our pockets to insure this heavy shipment for us, and it was our policy, not theirs. We did so for a reason, as you can see above, the events like this would make anyone nervous and wonder how this would end.
Once 3 of 4 packages went missing, he "Alex" started tacking on hundreds of dollars in extra costs outside of the “missing” packages that he wanted us to pay for, that we never saw in the first place, and wanted them added to the amount we owed him, or some alias.
He also claimed that he did not get all the parts in Box #1 (of 4), and even though acknowledging the parts, he put no value on it and told us we owed him more than should have been.
My son wanted to pay him back after all these weird things going on, but I am not certain he is required to, or should. If he knew was dealing with a bizarre black market operation, he should have asked for triple and --in cash, not that it was ever a good idea to begin with. Will we be getting a call from some sovereign nations tax department because the not “Alex” has been playing some tax dodging shell game? We hope we don’t, because we didn’t put this situation together until later.
And another weird thing, he never gave us a bank account number of his, if we did owe him something, he just wanted us to locate him a better supercharger kit than original and send it to Partex… again. And that is why we were asking for one on here more recently. I don’t know why we bothered trying, we should have just walked then
Lesson learned: Our first and last overseas transaction. Stupid us, because we didn't listen to all those craigslist warnings about overseas shipping of items.
So, whether right or wrong, or if your mind is made up or not, that is my 2 cents, and I am not going to open up to a bunch of fielded questions from the peanut gallery on rennlist who may be friends or not with him, and turn this situation into an even bigger pile of crap than it already is. I don’t think it’s the appropriate place to do this. But if he wants to continue, we should start with his Russian birth certificate and registered name departments, Russian citizen’s tax and import auditing department, and a customs and shipping audit of Partex.
Warren
01-21-2010, 03:32 PM
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The whole Russian angle has made this thing curious from the get-go, but then again, the post above doesn't read like it was written by a 88 year old retired doctor...
01-21-2010, 03:49 PM
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Without assigning blame, it is my opinion that no matter where the buyer is from, if he paid for the merchandise, he should have been sent the merchandise, or his money returned. If the seller had any reason to suspect that the transaction was illegal, or questionable, he should pull out of the deal. The seller should not profit from the transaction 
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01-21-2010, 03:55 PM
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Without assigning blame, it is my opinion that no matter where the buyer is from, if he paid for the merchandise, he should have been sent the merchandise, or his money returned. If the seller had any reason to suspect that the transaction was illegal, or questionable, he should pull out of the deal. The seller should not profit from the transaction .
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01-21-2010, 03:56 PM
#53
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It seems to me that four packages were sent, otherwise UPS would not accept blame for losing three of them. It was the buyer's risk to try to use a middle-man company for proxy shipping to Europe to evade import taxes. Since the lost packages were insured, UPS will pay for it. Packages get lost all the time. What is the problem? The seller is not obligated to do anything except file a claim with UPS to get whatever money the packages were insured for, then send that to the buyer. The buyer should not be complaining to the seller, but to UPS/proxy shipper...
Dan
'91 928GT S/C
475hp/460lb.ft
Dan
'91 928GT S/C
475hp/460lb.ft
01-21-2010, 04:38 PM
#54
Nordschleife Master
In my opinion, your quiet removal and changing of various things like Youtube videos and forum accounts doesn't corroborate with your statements of innocence. Coupled with the rental bond issues it seems have occurred multiple times on a rental property of yours, it would appear you're a less than law-abiding citizen of your country.
Maybe if this transaction should continue, it should also include a full IRS audit of your taxation affairs, "Warren"? Or maybe your birth details, financial history and background should make no difference to a simple transaction between someone who pays for goods, and someone who should be providing either the goods, or a refund of monies paid?
(yeah yeah.. so I'm being judgemental
but I'm on holiday in far northern New Zealand and need something else to entertain me while the kids splash around in the hotel pool 
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Maybe if this transaction should continue, it should also include a full IRS audit of your taxation affairs, "Warren"? Or maybe your birth details, financial history and background should make no difference to a simple transaction between someone who pays for goods, and someone who should be providing either the goods, or a refund of monies paid?
(yeah yeah.. so I'm being judgemental
but I'm on holiday in far northern New Zealand and need something else to entertain me while the kids splash around in the hotel pool )So, whether right or wrong, or if your mind is made up or not, that is my 2 cents, and I am not going to open up to a bunch of fielded questions from the peanut gallery on rennlist who may be friends or not with him, and turn this situation into an even bigger pile of crap than it already is. I don’t think it’s the appropriate place to do this. But if he wants to continue, we should start with his Russian birth certificate and registered name departments, Russian citizen’s tax and import auditing department, and a customs and shipping audit of Partex.
Warren
Warren
01-21-2010, 04:40 PM
#55
Nordschleife Master
What is the problem? The seller is not obligated to do anything except file a claim with UPS to get whatever money the packages were insured for, then send that to the buyer. The buyer should not be complaining to the seller, but to UPS/proxy shipper...
Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft
Dan
'91 928GT S/C
475hp/460lb.ftLast edited by Hilton; 01-21-2010 at 05:15 PM.
01-21-2010, 04:43 PM
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Our invoice shows one kit and a shipping charge, with no insurance or declared value established on the invoice. We paid extra out of our pockets to insure this heavy shipment for us, and it was our policy, not theirs. We did so for a reason, as you can see above, the events like this would make anyone nervous and wonder how this would end.
