cobalt

As others have said it is all relative. If you group the S4's and GT's together there were 609 US cars vs the 406 US GTS's. % wise it is significant but 200+ more cars and probably far more destroyed and left for junk I am sure it is getting harder to find nice versions of any of these cars.

You will always find the last MY of any model Porsche will command the most $$, unless there is a special sub model which is not the case with these cars. So if you find a nice low mileage S4 or GT in perfect shape for upper $20k's or a like GTS same condition in he upper $40k's I think you will find that over time the market will reflect equally based on current market values.

Buying these cars as an investment is a risky proposition and unless you recently purchased Michael's 6k mile 94 GTS 5 speed and don't drive it i don't think you will be happy with the cash you sell any of these cars for. The most you can hope for is to drive it 2-4k miles a year and sell it 4-5 years from now for exactly what you have into it. That is the best you can hope for and more than one should expect from any car.

As far as preference it depends on what you want. I like a 5 speed and will not drive an auto car. So for me it limits the choice. I prefer the lines of the GTS, the wide flairs and aero mirrors, painted tail are all part of the presence of the car that IMO makes it that much better. What convinced me was the torque of the GTS more than anything. the 316hp/317tq of the GT/S4 is nice and the car is fast but the feel of the 5 speed with the 345hp/367tq makes a big difference in overall feel although I am not convinced they are much faster.

The 5 speed is great and probably the easiest manual tranny car i have driven in traffic. The torque comes on so low and pulls so strong you barely have to shift gears in traffic. I would also not make such a big deal over the oil consumption and other issues. My car has none to speak of and other GTS owners I know say the same. The only GTS owner I know personally with oil issues owns an early 93 and it had major engine issues at one time and has since been corrected. Although I knew of someone who owned and extensively tracked an early 93 for nearly 10 years and he said he never had any major problems.

MrLexse

My 2 cents. If you want to drive and enjoy the car, get an S4 with a 5 speed and put a blower on it. If you care about resale and get pleasure out of owning it, taking it out for an occasional spin, the GTS will do. The GT seems like the half way point (some might argue the best of both worlds).
BTW, the early 94's came with the cup one wheels, as observed on EBay. Sometime during the first half of the 94 model year, Porsche made its last changes to the GTS (cabin filter, improved rods, etc.). Also, it seems like the number of 5 speeds vs auto GTS's seems to be getting closer every time I look.

cold_beer839

All of the 928's will eventually go up in value. There was never very many of them made in any year. They peaked at a little over 3000 units/year around '84-'86 and then production declined rapidly until '95.

But just like any car, the rarer models will command the higher prices. '77's/CS/GT/GTS

GregBBRD

Mechanically, the GTS were a bit of a "nightmare" with all the mechanical issues. Very few of the automatics are going to "survive" the thrust bearing problems...there just are not enough people 'aware" of the problem and actively doing something to prevent the damage from being terminal. The increased torque of the GTS engine made the "defect" in the design of the torque tube show up at a much lower mileage than it did in the S-4 models.

Combine this with the piston manufacturing problems and the rod design issues and you have a vehicle that needed major "revisions" the day it was built. This will "hurt" the history of this marvelous vehicle, in the long run....which is very unfortunate.

Tough to come up with any "downsides" to the GT.

Time will tell, which model will be more desireable. If the "last of the breed" guys win out...it will be the GTS. If the "best 928 built" guys win out...that will be the GT.

cobalt

Can anyone describe the differences between the GT rods and the GTS rods? It was my understanding they were the same and then were upgraded in 1994. Does anyone know how many 93's needed new engines, or rebuilds.

There is so much talk about it yet the 93's I know have not had these issues so apparently it is not all of them that were afflicted. The majority of the issues appear to be with teh earlier 93's not the later and this in itself gets confusing.

Marine Blue

+ 10000

But then again I guess it really doesn't matter. I hope to never sell the GT....unless of course I have a chance at a nicer one!

jthwan22

Is the GTS rear spoiler just a painted S4 rear spoiler? Or is it made with different material?

Chuck Z

Thanks to Rixter, all the info about the actual number of 5-speeeds vs. Automatics is here: http://www.928registry.org/928-Registry-info.htm

Chuck Z

This is sad commentary regarding the thrust bearing issue. Is it really that prevelant and will all automatic equipped GTSs experience this issue at some point? I know I should probably know more but could you please elaborate on the piston issue? I'm aware of the rod design discussion but not the piston issues.

Just a comment/question about the 93/early 94 rods, I see many GTSs in that range with 100k plus miles and the engines have not been opened up. Is it possible that these cars have bent rods and show no sypmtoms?

SteveG

Would it show on a compression or leak down test? I'm starting a personal "rod replacement" fund. I suspect I should just buy them now along with the Constantine Clamp.

AO

I don't think this is much of an issue with the NA cars. It certainly becomes an issue if you decide to boost.

AO

No. I don't think you'd see any thing (relating to the rods) form a compression/leak down test. I'd put the clamp ahead of the rods.

Randy V

Man, after that I feel like I'm driving a ticking time-bomb!?

OrionKhan

The GTS will probably hold its value better, but you'll be paying more for it. The GT will do well also. As far as an investment, I wouldn't buy a 928 unless it was very low mileage and you weren't planning on driving it much. Cars generally aren't "investments". They're expenses. If you really think you might be selling it in a couple of years, get the GT and drive it like you stole it. Enjoy the car and don't worry about the resale value until its time to sell. Otherwise, buy something different.

Chuck Z

I think they are basically the same except the GTS spoiler is smooth as opposed to the textured finish on the S4/GT spoiler. I have an unpainted OE GTS spoiler and if memory serves (been packed away in it's original box for ~10 years) it's the same sort of pliable material as the S4/GT spoiler just smooth. Many have sanded and painted their S4/GT spoilers body color.