928 Oldtimers
#61
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Like many, I came across Phil Tong's site while I was researching my first 928 purchase. That site was an invaluable 928 resource during the dawn of the internet.
I got to be good cyber-friends with Gene, both on and off the email list. We had made plans to meet in Florida, but then he was diagnosed with that brain tumor before we could get together.
He went fast after that, as often is the case with the brightest stars.
I got to be good cyber-friends with Gene, both on and off the email list. We had made plans to meet in Florida, but then he was diagnosed with that brain tumor before we could get together.
He went fast after that, as often is the case with the brightest stars.
#62
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
#63
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Gone. On the Open Road
Posts: 16,506
Received 1,644 Likes
on
1,073 Posts
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
If any of those old timers are still here and want to dredge and blur-up their old nekid 928 pics and post them, then...
#64
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Gone. On the Open Road
Posts: 16,506
Received 1,644 Likes
on
1,073 Posts
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
The file date on this is 6/1/99. (Anyone want to claim credit?)
#66
Fleet of Foot
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I joined the email list around 2000-2001 when I stumbled upon it while looking for information on my 86.5 S. I really enjoyed reading Gene's postings, particularly his thoughts on SUV's
. I used to correspond a bit with Dave Schaffer and worry a bit about him during his bouts with hurricanes and his failing health. I hope he's still around! My most notable contribution to the email list was my problem with the unique 85-86 exploding intake problem. I have seen my post referred to here a time or two. I used to get every post on email, but that got to the point of becoming somewhat overwhelming, finally going to digest mode, but that just wasn't the same. Once this forum got running I almost never checked back in. Too late now I guess!
![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#67
Race Car
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I was on Porschefans back then, but don't see my name on the list. That was about the time that the idea for the 928 Owners club was conceived.
Brian Robinson (Berobi)
Alan Ng
Steve (shoot what was his last name with the '86 fancy-name-for-blue colored car)
I can remember posts by Phil tong about physically advancing cam for performance gains. Before he bailed and got a RX7 Turbo (Boo!)
Maybe I didn't use the email list service and just hung out on the message board....
Brian Robinson (Berobi)
Alan Ng
Steve (shoot what was his last name with the '86 fancy-name-for-blue colored car)
I can remember posts by Phil tong about physically advancing cam for performance gains. Before he bailed and got a RX7 Turbo (Boo!)
Maybe I didn't use the email list service and just hung out on the message board....
From: Yu, Vince [mailto:YU.VINCE@email.mcclellan.af.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 1:52 PM
To: 928@porschefans.com
Subject: 928 Owners tally - final
First Name Last Name E-mail Year Model Auto/Manual
Dave Cooley 78 928 5-Speed
Vince Yu 78 928 Euro 5-Speed
Bob Whiting 78 928 Euro 5-Speed
Jim Harriger 79 928 5-Speed
Pete Walker 79 928 5-Speed
Jay Kempf 79 928 5-Speed
Tony Tabacchi 79 928 5-Speed
Susan Kirby 79 928
Norman Rains 79 928
Patrick McKiernan 79 928 Chev 6 .3L 5-Speed
David Lloyd 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
James Albright 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
JP Rodkey 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
David Smith 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
David Roberts 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
Mike 79 928 Euro
Dion Kolliopoulos 79 928 S Euro w/'83 Engine
Ken Hartley 80 928 Euro-f ied
Jon Screnock 80 928 S Euro Auto
Oscar Munoz 81 928 Auto
Marc White 81 928
Tony Tabacchi 81 928 S Euro 5-Speed
Michael Cottam 82 928 5-Speed
Jerry VanDenburgh 82 928
Mikel Evins 82 928
Dick Kjellsen 82 928
Ferenc Cserei 82 928 S Euro
Graham Bates 82 928 S Euro (Anniversary Mod el)
Vince Yu 83 928 S 5-Speed
Jim Stadter 83 928 S 5-Speed
David Kelly 83 928 S 5-Speed
Tom LoCascio 83 928 S 5-Speed
Len Amadeo 83 928 S 5-Speed
Steve 83 928 S Auto
Tom Green 83 928 S Auto
Diego Yankelevich 83 928 S Auto
Kurt Kline 83 928 S
Joe Liddle 83 928 S
Matt Feinstein 83 928 S Euro 5-Speed
Brian Davis 83 928 S Euro
David Ladd 84 928 5-Speed
Jerry Gebhard 84 928 S 5-Speed
Jason Wheeler 84 928 S 5-Speed
John White 84 928 S 5-Speed
Varrin Swearingen 84 928 S Auto
Patrick McKiernan 84 928 S Auto
Greg Phillips 84 928 S
Moira Nash 85 911 Targa (928 wannabe)
Dave Phaneu 85 928 S 5-Speed
Ed Croasdale 85 928 S 5-Speed
Steven Tucker 85 928 S 5-Speed
Stephane Chabot 85 928 S 5-Speed
Mike Sawran 85 928 S 5-Speed
Brian Malm 85 928 S 5-Speed
Tom Stark 85 928 S 5-Speed
Jojo 85 928 S Auto
Dave Jorgensen 85 928 S Auto
Dana labat 85 928 S Auto
George Nostrant 85 928 S
Colin Plastow 85 928 S
Leonard Zech 85 928 S Euro Auto
John McCoy 85 928 S Euro Auto
Michael Jen 85 928 S Euro
Tim Rollins 86 928 S 5-Speed
David Ohlemacher 86.5 928 S 5-Speed
Ken Kasik 86.5 928 S Auto
Louis Ott 86.5 928 S
Bill Coleman 87 928 S4 5-Speed
David Schultz 87 928 S4 5-Speed
Leonard Laub 87 928 S4 5-Speed
Greg Schickel 87 928 S4 5-Speed
Chris Joffe 87 928 S4 5-Speed
Thilo Corts 87 928 S4 Auto
Greg Phillips 87 928 S4 Auto
Devin McEntee 87 928 S4 Auto
Sam Herrin 87 928 S4
Phil Wilson 87 928 S4
David Leith 87 928 S4
Brian Buxton 87 928 S4
Jeremy Napie Beaconsfield 87 928 S4 Eur o
Bob Jecmen 87 928 S4 For mer owner Auto
?? Ertinger 88 928 S4 5-Speed
Marc White 88 928 S4 5-Speed
David Wolfe 88 928 S4 5-Speed
Richard Hirsch 88 928 S4 5-Speed
Robert Robinson 88 928 S4 5-Speed
Mikko Laanti 88 928 S4 Auto
Susan Kirby 88 928 S4
Rehan Mirza 88 928 S4
John Lau 88 928 S4
James Morrison 88 928 S4
88 928 S4
James Brown 88 928 S4
Howard Post 88 928 S4
Richard Hudgins 88 928 S4
Philip Adamson 88 928 SE 5-Speed
David Roberts 89 928 GT 5-Speed
Chuck Zachman 89 928 S4 5-Speed
David Roberts 89 928 S4 5-Speed
Jim Dobbins 89 928 S4 Auto
Ian Poertner 89 928 S4 Auto
Timothy Baker 89 928 S4 Auto
Russell Richardson 89 928 S4 Auto
Gary Tilson 89 928 S4 Auto
Derron Blakely 89 928 S4
David Hammond 89 928 S4 Eur o Auto
Paul Spencer 89 928 S4 Eur o
Mike Helman 90 928 GT 5-Speed
Phil Tong 90 928 GT 5-Speed
Jim Yeary 90 928 S4 Auto
Curtis Eames .com 91 928 GT
David Chamberland 91 928 GT
Dan Lennard 91 928 S4 Auto
Sung Suh 93 928 GTS 5-Speed
Randy Grubbs 93 928 GTS 5-Speed
Bob Jecmen 93 928 GTS Auto
Susan Kirby 93 928 GTS
James Morrison 94 928 GTS
Kevin Wilson ?? ??
Mike McQuaid ?? ??
Dave Ladd ?? ??
Greg Crowe ?? ??
Jim Y. ?? ??
J.D. Scott ?? For mer own er
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 1:52 PM
To: 928@porschefans.com
Subject: 928 Owners tally - final
First Name Last Name E-mail Year Model Auto/Manual
Dave Cooley 78 928 5-Speed
Vince Yu 78 928 Euro 5-Speed
Bob Whiting 78 928 Euro 5-Speed
Jim Harriger 79 928 5-Speed
Pete Walker 79 928 5-Speed
Jay Kempf 79 928 5-Speed
Tony Tabacchi 79 928 5-Speed
Susan Kirby 79 928
Norman Rains 79 928
Patrick McKiernan 79 928 Chev 6 .3L 5-Speed
David Lloyd 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
James Albright 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
JP Rodkey 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
David Smith 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
David Roberts 79 928 Euro 5-Speed
Mike 79 928 Euro
Dion Kolliopoulos 79 928 S Euro w/'83 Engine
Ken Hartley 80 928 Euro-f ied
Jon Screnock 80 928 S Euro Auto
Oscar Munoz 81 928 Auto
Marc White 81 928
Tony Tabacchi 81 928 S Euro 5-Speed
Michael Cottam 82 928 5-Speed
Jerry VanDenburgh 82 928
Mikel Evins 82 928
Dick Kjellsen 82 928
Ferenc Cserei 82 928 S Euro
Graham Bates 82 928 S Euro (Anniversary Mod el)
Vince Yu 83 928 S 5-Speed
Jim Stadter 83 928 S 5-Speed
David Kelly 83 928 S 5-Speed
Tom LoCascio 83 928 S 5-Speed
Len Amadeo 83 928 S 5-Speed
Steve 83 928 S Auto
Tom Green 83 928 S Auto
Diego Yankelevich 83 928 S Auto
Kurt Kline 83 928 S
Joe Liddle 83 928 S
Matt Feinstein 83 928 S Euro 5-Speed
Brian Davis 83 928 S Euro
David Ladd 84 928 5-Speed
Jerry Gebhard 84 928 S 5-Speed
Jason Wheeler 84 928 S 5-Speed
John White 84 928 S 5-Speed
Varrin Swearingen 84 928 S Auto
Patrick McKiernan 84 928 S Auto
Greg Phillips 84 928 S
Moira Nash 85 911 Targa (928 wannabe)
Dave Phaneu 85 928 S 5-Speed
Ed Croasdale 85 928 S 5-Speed
Steven Tucker 85 928 S 5-Speed
Stephane Chabot 85 928 S 5-Speed
Mike Sawran 85 928 S 5-Speed
Brian Malm 85 928 S 5-Speed
Tom Stark 85 928 S 5-Speed
Jojo 85 928 S Auto
Dave Jorgensen 85 928 S Auto
Dana labat 85 928 S Auto
George Nostrant 85 928 S
Colin Plastow 85 928 S
Leonard Zech 85 928 S Euro Auto
John McCoy 85 928 S Euro Auto
Michael Jen 85 928 S Euro
Tim Rollins 86 928 S 5-Speed
David Ohlemacher 86.5 928 S 5-Speed
Ken Kasik 86.5 928 S Auto
Louis Ott 86.5 928 S
Bill Coleman 87 928 S4 5-Speed
David Schultz 87 928 S4 5-Speed
Leonard Laub 87 928 S4 5-Speed
Greg Schickel 87 928 S4 5-Speed
Chris Joffe 87 928 S4 5-Speed
Thilo Corts 87 928 S4 Auto
Greg Phillips 87 928 S4 Auto
Devin McEntee 87 928 S4 Auto
Sam Herrin 87 928 S4
Phil Wilson 87 928 S4
David Leith 87 928 S4
Brian Buxton 87 928 S4
Jeremy Napie Beaconsfield 87 928 S4 Eur o
Bob Jecmen 87 928 S4 For mer owner Auto
?? Ertinger 88 928 S4 5-Speed
Marc White 88 928 S4 5-Speed
David Wolfe 88 928 S4 5-Speed
Richard Hirsch 88 928 S4 5-Speed
Robert Robinson 88 928 S4 5-Speed
Mikko Laanti 88 928 S4 Auto
Susan Kirby 88 928 S4
Rehan Mirza 88 928 S4
John Lau 88 928 S4
James Morrison 88 928 S4
88 928 S4
James Brown 88 928 S4
Howard Post 88 928 S4
Richard Hudgins 88 928 S4
Philip Adamson 88 928 SE 5-Speed
David Roberts 89 928 GT 5-Speed
Chuck Zachman 89 928 S4 5-Speed
David Roberts 89 928 S4 5-Speed
Jim Dobbins 89 928 S4 Auto
Ian Poertner 89 928 S4 Auto
Timothy Baker 89 928 S4 Auto
Russell Richardson 89 928 S4 Auto
Gary Tilson 89 928 S4 Auto
Derron Blakely 89 928 S4
David Hammond 89 928 S4 Eur o Auto
Paul Spencer 89 928 S4 Eur o
Mike Helman 90 928 GT 5-Speed
Phil Tong 90 928 GT 5-Speed
Jim Yeary 90 928 S4 Auto
Curtis Eames .com 91 928 GT
David Chamberland 91 928 GT
Dan Lennard 91 928 S4 Auto
Sung Suh 93 928 GTS 5-Speed
Randy Grubbs 93 928 GTS 5-Speed
Bob Jecmen 93 928 GTS Auto
Susan Kirby 93 928 GTS
James Morrison 94 928 GTS
Kevin Wilson ?? ??
Mike McQuaid ?? ??
Dave Ladd ?? ??
Greg Crowe ?? ??
Jim Y. ?? ??
J.D. Scott ?? For mer own er
#68
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
IIRC, Porschefans started out as a mailing list then a website then RL (last time Porsche clamped down on the use of its name....), perhaps you were just on the website? I'm a slow learner and didn't get on the website myself for well over a year.
#69
Race Car
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
James, you been in Charlotte since back then? Do any events with PCA? Reason I ask, as I used to be really active and did a stint as Pres in 99.
IIRC, Porschefans started out as a mailing list then a website then RL (last time Porsche clamped down on the use of its name....), perhaps you were just on the website? I'm a slow learner and didn't get on the website myself for well over a year.
IIRC, Porschefans started out as a mailing list then a website then RL (last time Porsche clamped down on the use of its name....), perhaps you were just on the website? I'm a slow learner and didn't get on the website myself for well over a year.
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I think I picked up on Porschefans when the website came out. I couldn't figure out why I would want to be flooded with emails so never touched that part. Found Rennlist years later when I was web-searching for "928 Supercharger" but didn't join until, well, whatever my join date is here
<--- to the left and up a bit.
I don't believe we have ever met, but I recognize your face from the Carolinas Region pics, newsletters, etc.
"Happy Motoring!"
and
"Keep the shiny side up."
#70
Nordschleife Master
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
WOW, DR that goes WAY BACK MAN! I remember those days. I used to read every freaking email on the PorscheFans928 site or whatever it was called. Finally got to the point where it would take an hour or more and I gave up!
I think you can still access most all of the Phil Tong info via the 928 Owners Club if I am not mistaken!
I think you can still access most all of the Phil Tong info via the 928 Owners Club if I am not mistaken!
#71
Race Car
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Here's the Porschefans mailing list search from Charlie Kindel. Only some stuff still works.
http://www.kindel.com/porsche/pfans/search.asp
http://www.kindel.com/porsche/pfans/search.asp
#73
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Hey Doods, I'm up to 37 posts now!
Remember back in the day when our S-4's were nearly exactly the same RWHP and Torque, except I had like .6 HP more, and I told you that you'd have to TALAMB...... Hee, Hee,....
DR, thanks for posting Vince's list......
Great thread.....!
#74
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Here's a Gene O' post I found entertaining......
Subject: Re: Thilo Cort's oil consumption
Thilo,
Your remark concerning oil consumption at an indicated 180 mph makes perfect sense. also, the blue smoke your friends noticed can easily be explained. An 87S4 with automatic transmission can reach 180mph approximately three seconds after if falls out of a C-130. The blue smoke your friends noticed was not coming from your car. It was seeping up through cracks in the autobahn from a place far below. If you heard any other sound over the anguished scream of the engine, it may have been Gabriel blowing his horn. Cruising at or below 150mph will dramatically decrease both oil consumption and tire wear. Now that you've identified yourself as an attorney, I'll reiterate my earlier remarks about playing on the freeway. Perhaps you should add some teflon coated rosary beads to your mirror. They may come in handy.
Gene O'Rourke
Subject: Re: Thilo Cort's oil consumption
Thilo,
Your remark concerning oil consumption at an indicated 180 mph makes perfect sense. also, the blue smoke your friends noticed can easily be explained. An 87S4 with automatic transmission can reach 180mph approximately three seconds after if falls out of a C-130. The blue smoke your friends noticed was not coming from your car. It was seeping up through cracks in the autobahn from a place far below. If you heard any other sound over the anguished scream of the engine, it may have been Gabriel blowing his horn. Cruising at or below 150mph will dramatically decrease both oil consumption and tire wear. Now that you've identified yourself as an attorney, I'll reiterate my earlier remarks about playing on the freeway. Perhaps you should add some teflon coated rosary beads to your mirror. They may come in handy.
Gene O'Rourke
#75
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Yo where did this guy come UP with this shat? Geno was totally entertaining and quite the hoot.
Perfect. Liked those nice rear ends too as I recall, on the 928s and the fairer sex...
What I think about every time I drive that 88 S4 is the wonderful Club Sport springs you and DR got me hooked up with wayyyy back when. It is just crisp and sharp to drive, I'm taking it today dammit. Oh and I finally got me some of those fancy sport seats, you know the kind with increased lateral support. That Paul Champagne is just the ticket...
Gotta go experience driving bliss on the way to work oh yeah.
Marc
Perfect. Liked those nice rear ends too as I recall, on the 928s and the fairer sex...
What I think about every time I drive that 88 S4 is the wonderful Club Sport springs you and DR got me hooked up with wayyyy back when. It is just crisp and sharp to drive, I'm taking it today dammit. Oh and I finally got me some of those fancy sport seats, you know the kind with increased lateral support. That Paul Champagne is just the ticket...
Gotta go experience driving bliss on the way to work oh yeah.
Marc