928 S4 Estate Wagon
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I have never heard of a 928 with asymmetric door arrangement. However, Europeans often refer to cars with two doors and a hatchback as "3-door" cars.
The placard seems to be made for the green car, which is about 5 years older.
The placard seems to be made for the green car, which is about 5 years older.
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I nearly bought one of the two 6 years ago for $25k...that is what they wanted for it...I didn't want to pay more than $22k... So I passed. I saw it 4 years ago at the Barrett Jackson auction go for $44k! Nice way to double your money. Oh, it had next to no miles on it... 6000 or maybe it was even less than that! Frankly I should have bought it! It was have been a GREAT collectors piece!
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One description of the "birthday car" said that it had three doors - two on the driver's side, one on the passenger side. They weren't counting the hatch as a door...
The birthday car was built in '84, but had a preprodction version of the S4 front and rear bumpers, lights, etc.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, the birthday car has special projector headlamps.
So - is the maroon car the birthday car with some updates, or a new custom version? It would be nice to see a photo of the right side.
The birthday car was built in '84, but had a preprodction version of the S4 front and rear bumpers, lights, etc.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, the birthday car has special projector headlamps.
So - is the maroon car the birthday car with some updates, or a new custom version? It would be nice to see a photo of the right side.
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The maroon car has nothing to do with the 1984 birthday car. The birthday car is the green one shown in post #9. You can see both sides of the car, each side has one door. You can also see Ferry on his 75th birthday, in front of his house in Stuttgart, with the car and the company executives.
I don't think there ever was one with two doors on one and one on the other side. If it existed, it was neither the birthday car, nor one of the two ASC conversions we know of.
Here are some more pictures. Note that the headlight covers changed over time (last picture).
I don't think there ever was one with two doors on one and one on the other side. If it existed, it was neither the birthday car, nor one of the two ASC conversions we know of.
Here are some more pictures. Note that the headlight covers changed over time (last picture).
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Ok, is this an 'estate wagon' or is it ectually a 'shooting brake'. Veddy, veddy important to get this correct straight away.
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I think the B-day was '84, I suspect the car was conceived and started in '83, making the pre-S4 bumpers quite old by the time they actually made it into production. As good as they look, you would have thought they would have brought those out MUCH sooner! Though I guess 3 years was probably the norm for stuff like that back in the early/mid '80's (the first S4 showed up in summer of '86 to set the land speed record if you recall...now tracked regularly by Kibort).
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James: The product road maps for cars are set for a long time in advance. My friends in Weissach usually work on cars that are at least two years away from production. For them, a 928 is a vintage car, and the factory cars they get to drive are from yesterday...
Remember that it's always a matter of perspective. What's new to us is old to them...
I heard that one of the reasons for the front and rear bumper change in 87 was that the tools for the other bumper covers came close to the end of their useful life. I don't know, if this is true, but was told by people who had spoken with Anatole Lapine and Wolfgang Möbius at the 25th year anniversary of the 928.
If it is indeed true, I wonder how they made spare OB bumper covers. But that's a whole other ball of wax...
Remember that it's always a matter of perspective. What's new to us is old to them...
I heard that one of the reasons for the front and rear bumper change in 87 was that the tools for the other bumper covers came close to the end of their useful life. I don't know, if this is true, but was told by people who had spoken with Anatole Lapine and Wolfgang Möbius at the 25th year anniversary of the 928.
If it is indeed true, I wonder how they made spare OB bumper covers. But that's a whole other ball of wax...
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B-day car has 32V engine about year before its introduction among other things. S4 looklike protos were running around Weissach test track in early summer 1985 IIRR. Some GTS specific part castings are dated about year before introduction on early '92 made production cars.
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If You want You can have Your own 928 estate.
http://cgi.ebay.fr/PORSCHE-928-ESTAT...3A1%7C294%3A50
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The museum is VERY nice. Kitty and I were there last Sunday morning for about 3 hours. Enjoyed the tour, lots of interesting race cars, and discussions of their histories on the audio players. I especially enjoyed the comments about a '94 (I think) Nachtblau GTS. The final words were: ".... in the mid- 90's, Porsche was in difficult times and could not continue development of all the cars. So - a decision was made to reduce the line, thus stopping production of the 928 - the perfect car" (The last 5 or 6 words are exact quotes, the others are best of my memory). I thought it an intersting comment, coming from them!.
I saw three 928's during 11 days in Germany Switzerland and Austria - ~1200 miles of driving. Two of them were in the Porsche Museum - an '84, and the GTS. The third was across the street at Porsche Zentrum in the parking area for service -a silver GTS. None on the roads. It also seemed I saw more Cayennes than I did Porsche 'sports cars'.
By the way, the Mercedes Museum, which we visited on Saturday is absolutely FABULOUS. Only had 2 hours to spend there, but could easily have spent another 3 or more. Don't miss it if you are in Stuttgart.
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I saw three 928's during 11 days in Germany Switzerland and Austria - ~1200 miles of driving. Two of them were in the Porsche Museum - an '84, and the GTS. The third was across the street at Porsche Zentrum in the parking area for service -a silver GTS. None on the roads. It also seemed I saw more Cayennes than I did Porsche 'sports cars'.
By the way, the Mercedes Museum, which we visited on Saturday is absolutely FABULOUS. Only had 2 hours to spend there, but could easily have spent another 3 or more. Don't miss it if you are in Stuttgart.
Gary Knox