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Old 01-26-2009, 01:23 AM
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I bet the PO superheated the drum and hence the cracking. I wouldnt worry about it. the braking force in the rear is mild and its not part of the wheel attachement structure. I would take a lot for that crack to propagate. I would monitor it, mark the cracks and see if they grow substantially.

Originally Posted by Charley B
There are four cracks just like it located around the hat,

The e-brake has never worked. I adjusted everything tight from the handle back to the wheel with no improvement. My guess is the PO drove it with the brake on and either wore out the shoes or, like stan mentioned, the spring holders popped out of position.
Old 01-26-2009, 02:08 AM
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Charley if you drive like I do you cannot have those rotors on your car. Your life is worth more.
Old 01-26-2009, 02:41 AM
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Due to the heat marks that I see, it got really hot a few times, I personally would NOT drive it and would replace immediatly. If you insist on continuing to use it take a drill bit and find the end of the cracks and drill a hole at the very ends of the cracks and this will prevent it from spreading. I still wouldnt do it, but if you insist/have NO OTHER options, then use the drill method. Otherwise you risk having it explode, this will take out the rim and leave you pretty much brakeless. I say this as it will leave nothing for the pad to stay in place and the pistons will simply fall out of the caliper rendering your system useless, the fronts may still work as they are on a different circuit but it will NOT be a pretty story.

As to your ebrake not working, buy a shoe w/ spring kit from Roger. This will be your problem and whenever the shoes are replaced the springs should be too.
Old 01-26-2009, 09:06 PM
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I guess if you are on the race track, this can happen, but unlikely. this was off a toy car. a S2000 at the track.

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Charley if you drive like I do you cannot have those rotors on your car. Your life is worth more.
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:12 PM
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Mark that is scary!!! the issue I am worried about, is if the pad hangs up on the cracked rotor locking up the wheel.
Old 01-26-2009, 09:14 PM
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this one cracked under hard track conditions, but i get your point. it is certainly is a possiblity. this is honda crap, the 928 german stuff is a lot tougher.

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Mark that is scary!!! the issue I am worried about, is if the pad hangs up on the cracked rotor locking up the wheel.
Old 01-26-2009, 09:54 PM
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The reason I said what I did mark is that he has 4 of these cracks, not one.

If all 4 let go at the same time I doubt the center of the hub will stay together, it will simply let go and out the pieces come.
Old 01-26-2009, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Charley B
Will the S4 rotors work on the GTS?
YES actually

run S4 pads on it too (they will be a little loose but will be ok)

do that until you can replace the fronts with the 965 rotors.
Old 01-27-2009, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
keep an eye on it. I wouldnt worry about it.
says the toothless cam guy!
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that made me laugh!

Originally Posted by Tony
says the toothless cam guy!
Old 01-27-2009, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Charley B
Also, I assume the hole at the 2 o'clock position is for adjusting the e-brake shoes, but there is no adjuster at the end of the hole. Does that mean the rotor just wasn't ligned up properly when installed?

If I have removed the screws at the 4 and 8 o'clock position should i be able to soft hammer the rotor off? Or, at least the spacer, so I can get to the 8mm screw holes?

Thanks
There is a hole in the rotor to access the star adjuster for the e-brake, but you have to rotate the rotor (parking brake off, neutral) till it's in line. The adjuster is in the 9 o'clock position I think (going from memory, either that or opposite at 3 o'clock).

Having said that I always found it easier to adjust the e-brake with the rotor off. You can also check why it's not working correctly then, check positioning of e-brake springs, and disassemble the mechanism and clean up/lubricate the adjuster if it's seized.

Putting the e-brake back together is frustrating at first, but then after a bit of practice is second nature!
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the adjuster is 9 ok on the passenger side (LHD) and 3 ok drivers side.
Old 01-27-2009, 05:39 PM
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Ahhh! I looked only at the 3 O'Clock on the passenger side, thanks.

I bought a set of e-brake shoes a few years ago so I'm going to change the rotors, shoes and wheels and tires all at the same time. I was raised on drum type brakes so I don't expect problems changing the e-brake shoes. I think I still have all the tools needed,

My biggest concern now is breaking the spacers loose. Any hints?
Old 01-27-2009, 06:02 PM
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My spacers just fall off. I'm betting at most a tap from a mallet will do it. I didn't remove the rotor, but it has to be worth the effort especially if you are changing the shoes. The star adjuster is PIA to manipulate with a flat edge screw driver thru that hole. Besides being hard to catch with the driver, the threads bind with that brake dust on them.
Old 01-27-2009, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveG
My spacers just fall off. I'm betting at most a tap from a mallet will do it. .
I beat the hell out of it with a BF shot hammer and no joy.


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