Darn, I will need a new license plate frame!

 

Whatever you do, though, don't mess whatever material you're using to block the photo radar cameras. It obviously works great!

 

maybe they are starting to play the rules a bit... I've seen 2 totally unmarked units with folks pulled over on the 14 in the last 2 weeks. a white one and a dark blue unit. they were new crown vics.

looks like some chargers too: http://www.nextautos.com/governmentl...highway-patrol

from a cop site: Not so. California law is pretty clear on this one but often misunderstood.

An officer whose primary purpose is traffic enforcement must be in uniform and operating a conspicuously marked vehicle. The key words here are primary purpose. So, if the main function of an officer is to be out there writing traffic tickets and investigating accidents, then the rules applies.

But if it is a detective, narcotics investigator, juvenile officer, supervisor, regular (non-traffic) patrol officer, or just about anyone else whose primary purpose is something other than traffic enforcement, they do not have to be in uniform and they do not have to be operating a marked vehicle to write a traffic citation.

BTW, marked units do not have to be black and white. They can be all white or some other color I can't remember at the moment.
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i just saw an umarked pickup truck pull someone over the other day...the flashing lights were behind blacked-out glass in the back.

 

it's been bad out here last 2 years or so. CA needs the money in a big way and they went w/zero tolorance and "wolf packs" of 4-6 radar units that saturate an area for a while, then move on.

with less driver miles as a result of fuel and economic issues, I suspect they are now under even more pressure to produce.

course, speed limits are a cruel joke when we're stuck in bumper to bumper traffic for miles...

 

We have a new toll road in my area and the CHiP's have been very aggressive with LIDAR on it. I routinely see them on the shoulder aiming the gun at oncoming traffic. This is a very recent occurance here. As I related once in OT, I got pulled over by one because his LIDAR could not get a fix/reading on my BLACK 928 & I had no front plate to aim at. Didn't get cited and I wasn't speeding as I saw him way before he aimed the gun at me. Was very interesting to know that (sleek) black cars and LIDAR may not be an urban legend after all.

 

cops suck.......


:>)

 

 

Sweet victory, Rob!

This is one mechanism that Ron H needs to add to his quiver.

 

Brian -- please DON'T expand on that statement...

 

Nice goin Rob!

 

It's a good thing that unmarked cars can't pull you over in GA. One time "someone" was going down GA-400 chasing after a 996 turbo. "They" were going triple digits in the fast lane and some guy in a 350Z without an indicator or looking in the rear view started to switch to the fast lane, then freaked out and went back to his lane after finally looking behind him and seeing a 928 zooming up . No problem, there was more than enough brake to slow down in time if he obliviously went there anyway. Later on everyone hit a bunch of traffic and the guy in the 350Z rolled down his window and stuck his arm out the window holding a badge

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

 

CALIFORNIA CODES
VEHICLE CODE
SECTION 40800-40808




40800. (a) A traffic officer on duty for the exclusive or main
purpose of enforcing the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with
Section 20000) or 11 (commencing with Section 21000) shall wear a
full distinctive uniform, and if the officer while on duty uses a
motor vehicle, it must be painted a distinctive color specified by
the commissioner.
(b) This section does not apply to an officer assigned exclusively
to the duty of investigating and securing evidence in reference to
the theft of a vehicle or failure of a person to stop in the event of
an accident or violation of Section 23109 or 23109.1 or in reference
to a felony charge, or to an officer engaged in serving a warrant
when the officer is not engaged in patrolling the highways for the
purpose of enforcing the traffic laws.

[I]As you may conclude, the officer must be in uniform and in a distinctly painted vehicle. Low profile vehicles are marked, as Dr Bob has stated, with the CHP logo on the door, though usually in very UN-distinct colors so you see it in your
peripheral vision after it is too late.[/I]

2800.1. (a) Any person who, while operating a motor vehicle and
with the intent to evade, willfully flees or otherwise attempts to
elude a pursuing peace officer's motor vehicle, is guilty of a
misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not more
than one year if all of the following conditions exist:
(1) The peace officer's motor vehicle is exhibiting at least one
lighted red lamp visible from the front and the person either sees or
reasonably should have seen the lamp.
(2) The peace officer's motor vehicle is sounding a siren as may
be reasonably necessary.
(3) The peace officer's motor vehicle is distinctively marked.
(4) The peace officer's motor vehicle is operated by a peace
officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of
Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, and that peace officer is
wearing a distinctive uniform.
(b) Any person who, while operating a motor vehicle and with the
intent to evade, willfully flees or otherwise attempts to elude a
pursuing peace officer's bicycle, is guilty of a misdemeanor
punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one
year if the following conditions exist:
(1) The peace officer's bicycle is distinctively marked.
(2) The peace officer's bicycle is operated by a peace officer, as
defined in paragraph (4) of subdivision (a), and that peace officer
is wearing a distinctive uniform.
(3) The peace officer gives a verbal command to stop.
(4) The peace officer sounds a horn that produces a sound of at
least 115 decibels.
(5) The peace officer gives a hand signal commanding the person to
stop.
(6) The person is aware or reasonably should have been aware of
the verbal command, horn, and hand signal, but refuses to comply with
the command to stop.

According to this section, less restrictions are placed on peace officers making a traffic arrest, so judgement is required before ignoring one who is summoning you to stop.

FWIW, the only person who can determine legally the safe for condtions speed on a particular stretch of highway in the state of California other than a freeway or highway subject to VC 22349, is a traffic engineer, and that number is posted in the Eng. & Traffic Study if it is performed correctly. I realize what I just said is subject to debate, but think about it before you react. Then think abou it if you are cited for violating VC 22350.

My reaction to this case? FREAKING GOOD SHOW. I'm elated. Keep it up. I'm impressed. The caution to refrain from irritating armed personnel is a wise one. Save it for court. Tough guys are a bit more timid in a courtroom when you have witnesses present. My personal practice on the side of the road? I carry a small tape recorder in the car.

 

Do you tell them they are being recorded? Do you even need to?

 

If I want to use it I must inform them, but I don't tell them and only use it to keep things clear in my mind. As was advised, they have their finger on a trigger and I am alone in the wilderness. Not too good an idea to push a stressed out insecure, person under those conditions. (disclaimer: I have at no time in this conversation meant to imply that all police officers are necessarily stressed out or insecure.)