BC

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=427546

The bracket and calipers solve the difficulty of going from an axial to a radial mount. The outlaw calipers are axial. They seem like a good size for most uses.

I know that everyone always wants huge brakes, but the real issue is good strength and pad contact, as well as heat dissipation.

I can easily lock up S brakes. But that doesn't mean much if they overheat on the track.

hacker-pschorr

I wouldn't want to be the first person to try that.

My 79 has custom spindles made by Todd to hold the S4 brakes.

BC

Well, we all don't have front-door service access to Todd.

Obviously the adaptor should be made in steel and not aluminum.

RyanPerrella

if you believe that then why would you even consider buying this?

What the hell do willwood brakes cost? (I simply hate the name Willwood, too RedNecky for me)

hacker-pschorr

Good question, do a set of these adaptors + willwood brakes cost significantly less then OEM (used) spindle / caliper with a new rotor?

RyanPerrella

doubt it

BC

The calipers are 200 each or less, actually.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Outla...QQcmdZViewItem

The pad area is 46.5cm - not too bad. Very strong caliper.

Pad choice is obviously unbelieveable.

You can get over 300mm rotors with 1.25 width - good mass on those for heat issues.

he rotors are no more than 150 each.

http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=58792

So I don't know how this compares with finding:

BB calipers, and probably rebuilding them.
993TT rotors: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__Porsche-911-993-Twin-Turbo-Front-Brake-Rotors_W0QQitemZ280272901063QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20Acce ssoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280272901063&_trkparms=72%3A543 |39%3A1|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...hreadid=397446

Between 450 and 520 for the pair. Thats hefty.

I think it comes down to consumables, at least on a heavily driven street car and a track car - how much for constant replacement.

BC

The hats are not really a consumable. And you need new custom hats on an S4 suspension to run the 993TT rotor anyway.

How much swept pad area is on the BB?

kevinod

I put Wilwood Dynalites on my FTO, much better than stock, excellent gradual & predictable increase as you push the brake pedal further. Have them over a year now I think. Once I get my 79 on the road properly I'll be able to comment on comparisons.

hacker-pschorr

I can already tell you how that comparison is going to go, considering the brakes on your 79 are shared with the VW Scirocco

123quattro

The only real problem with the Willwood calipers is I think they don't have dust seals. You will end up rebuilding them every couple years. It's not too expensive though. That, and the pads also rattle in them. They are more of a "race" caliper than a "street" caliper.

kevinod

So... the Scirocco brakes weren't good then? I'm guessing (hoping?) brake technology has come on a bit in 30 years but haven't been able to put the 928's to the test just yet.