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Old 07-17-2008, 09:17 AM
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Hi everyone. Just read one of the threads and mentioned that deleted the air pump for PCV.. I live in a non-emissions paranoid state and don't have to worry about catalytics etc. Can we just remove the air pump belt and voila! ? Do we have to worry about backfiring, blowing gaskets etc. once removed?

Would be nice to eliminate that parastitic engine component...

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Curt
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Usually, you want to remove the air pump when you remove the cats. Not sure if cutting the air pump belt would help/hurt while leaving the cats in.
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You can take the pump off while the cats are still there. You will need to put a cap on the air feed line that runs to them. Otherwise, you will have a weird sounding exhaust leak.
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Originally Posted by curt_928
Hi everyone. Just read one of the threads and mentioned that deleted the air pump for PCV.. I live in a non-emissions paranoid state and don't have to worry about catalytics etc. Can we just remove the air pump belt and voila! ? Do we have to worry about backfiring, blowing gaskets etc. once removed?

Would be nice to eliminate that parasitic engine component...

Many thanks,

Curt
Hey Curt,

What model year is it? I think the S4s (87up) have an electric fan, but before that the air pump belt is also the fan belt, so you would have to either get a shorter belt (and have no way to tighten it), remove the pump and replace it with a pulley, or also add an electric fan as part of the switch.

I think you should replace the cats with some that weren't designed to have air infusion, like the high flow ones you can get as part of a crossover pipe upgrade. This way you still could pass inspection if you wanted to, and you know they're working the way they were designed. Not sure what effect a non-working air pump would have on the stock cats.
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies! The car is a 79' that I installed a cat bypass on 1 1/2 years ago. Right now the air pump just feeds into the crankcase I believe... The pulley idea isn't a bad one. I'll have to check on that tonight.. maybe even a shorter belt.. hmmm...

Thanks for the help!

Curt
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Originally Posted by curt_928
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies! The car is a 79' that I installed a cat bypass on 1 1/2 years ago. Right now the air pump just feeds into the crankcase I believe... The pulley idea isn't a bad one. I'll have to check on that tonight.. maybe even a shorter belt.. hmmm...

Thanks for the help!

Curt
When I removed my air pump, I spaced the cooling fan out about 3/4" and put it on the power steering circuit with a longer belt.
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Originally Posted by 123quattro
When I removed my air pump, I spaced the cooling fan out about 3/4" and put it on the power steering circuit with a longer belt.
That's ingenious. I used a 21" v-belt from crank to fan directly, maybe a 4L2100 fractional horsepower type ( a lawn mower belt). There is not much stress on it so I think it will drive my fan OK.
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Originally Posted by curt_928
Right now the air pump just feeds into the crankcase I believe...
CIS engines have air injection into the heads, which exits at each exhaust port, to further burn any leftover HC.
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Originally Posted by j.kenzie@sbcglobal.net
That's ingenious. I used a 21" v-belt from crank to fan directly, maybe a 4L2100 fractional horsepower type ( a lawn mower belt). There is not much stress on it so I think it will drive my fan OK.
This is what I ended up doing. Bought a 1/2"x21" belt at Tractor Supply. I had the fan off, so I bolted it on with the belt. Tight fit, works great. It's a Kevlar belt, so very strong.



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