For those of you who have been following my PPI thread on the 85 928S 5 spd- just spoke w/the SM at Pfaff on some questions I had, and in doing so he mentioned that he knew of the following that is available ( will post pics as soon as they're sent to me) here is the body of the ad:

RARE 5 SPEED!!! Canadian car with service records. 420 hp Completely modified engine, Upgraded rings,pistons, and headwork, all Porsche Parts 25,000km ago, car has 171000 km. All work Performed by AUTOWERKS Original Paint in mint condition. New Porsche brakes, New Porsche Upgraded Suspension. Fikse Rims. Completely documented car in showroom condition. VERY RARE 1 of 50 produced and only 6 are manual. Will take BEST OFFER
(currently its advert. price is 34.900.)
PPI will tell, but what are your thoughts on value and mileage vs price and mods ( seller is forwarding me details on same)
Thanks for the advice
Frank

 

Ok here are the pics
Looks good so far....any Ontario members that know anything about this car....it reminds of one I saw last year, can't place it though.

 

Wow that looks great!

Run a carfax, ask for records and get a PPI. If all checks out that looks like a great buy!

 

I want those wheels.

 

Well, it looks very clean, but some BS in the ad. It's a early 92 car (2/92) and having a 5-speed does not make it rare. There were a hell of a lot more made than the claimed 6. What exactly is a Porsche "Upgraded Suspension" (BS), No such option to my knowledge, not for 92 or even 93-95. 420 HP is a dream even if it has bigger valves and porting. No mention of exhaust mods so IMHO more BS. Find out what the option codes are and have a good PPI done. Intake manifold needs re-paint/powdercoat job and the jump post is missing the cover.

 

Engine rebuilt at 139,838 km, devek ported and polished heads with 38mm intake valves, (stock 36mm) stock cams, ported intake manifold, devek exhaust system 3" back from headers, car now has 170,417kms. Bilstein coil-over suspension with larger sway bars front and rear

 

Is intake valve size correct? What valves those are, 39mm 968 valves milled down to fit enlargened original valve seats perhaps? IIRR stock intake valves are 37mm.

 

Ha ha wow are we being picky here or what? UH OH DEAL BREAKER, MISSING JUMP POST COVER! That cover has to cost what $1 ? How come when a car is a steal, expectations are still for a concours car? (I think half of all 928's are missing this stupid cover, mine was never on, i happened to find it in a box of parts though and after i figured out what the hell it was i reinstalled it.)In short, if that is the worst thing the 928 Police can find with a 928 based on pictures, then your in really good shape. So i will take this as a thumbs up from Jim.

I do think its funny that when engines are rebuilt, and if this is a Devek Engine that had some serious money thrown at it, why doesnt anyone paint the damn intake and cam covers. That way when they show their new stroker which cost a fortune, yet looks no different it just looks like an old, paint peeling engine. Why does no one invest the $100 in painting the damn thing!


The ad is allot of fluff, no way 420hp, odd valve sizing, and as has been said 37mm is the stock size. Bilstein suspension is an upgrade and is completely rebuildable but its nothing SPECIAL.

Looks like a hell of a deal, is this a grey market car i assume? I would have more questions about that then anything. Allot of canadian cars are Euro models. Canada has really laxed rules about imports compared with the USA, that being said, it would still be very difficult to have it imported and titled here.

Actually looking at the sticker in the door sill area it looks like its a Canadian model car. Thats good, but it still needs to be converted for the US, as in new instruments, figure $1500. You wont find a used instrument cluster for a 5 speed. You will also have to deal with some import paperwork which could be a hassle, but as far as modifications to comply with DOT and EPA i don't see any issues. Although if the car does have to be EPA tested, i doubt it would pass if its a stroker or modified at all. They would only let in OE engines, modifications would be no no and i would tend to believe that the guys doing those checks, are quite a bit more thorough then the local billy bob at the smog test center that usually does an emissions test.

EDIT: $35K for a stroker GTS in this color combination is a screaming deal. Now to verify if its actually a stroker. I wouldnt pass this up.

 

Ryan
85 - 5 Spd 66,000 KM/ asking is 16K (still waiting on results of PPI)
93 is 35K OBO 170K- PPI on monday. I can register the car in Canada no worries, and renew the tags same same. Worst case I can always tag it in AZ, where they're a wee bit more liberal outside city limits about smog issues.
I wonder what proceeded the top end work- TB grenade? Anyway, PPI will reveal all. Sure like the GTS, never driven one though...

 

http://www.928registry.org/1993-928GTS-early-5080.htm
a bit more info

 

Well- Just got off the phone with the shop where the work was done-(check book screaming as I write this) Car has had a bottom up rebuild- Valves are from a 968- Needs a T/B (age-4 years since last) Car will go in Monday for the PPI, and then all will be revealed- Can't believe I just busted my budget by 20K....

 

thanks shaaaark.

 

Because some people just don't give a crap about what the engine looks like under the hood. Seriously, I buy the car to drive it, not to sit on a lawn chair looking at the engine of a car with its hood open. Exterior and interior of the car are much more important, what people can actually see and what you see when you are inside the car.

Dan
'91 928GT S/C

 

well then i completely disagree with you on this one. Let me guess, the valve covers on your car are peeling? Its such a simple procedure i dont see why you wouldnt want to do it.

It takes just a can of spray paint if your real lazy, 4 hours of prep and a few cans of spray paint if you want to do a real nice job. Then when you do pop the hood it doesnt look like its melting or something.

To the OP, Some in SoCal question the work done by Devek on strokers, those in Nor Cal love Devek. I personally am sorry they went belly up but i did have some serious issues with them a few years back. That being said, the engine is most likely in great shape (depending on who you ask) Should be a fun car, the interior looks nice, great lines on the car and its a non rubstrip car.

Let us know how it turns out.

Oh and BTW, a stroker GTS compared to an 85, well there is no comparison, you'll love the GTS!