How can this be? No compression in all 8 cyls ?
#31
Fingers crossed. Affecting all cylinders does seem to rule out a lot of the catastrophic problems just on the basis of probability.
Nice choice of therapy~ best wishes.
With respect to immediately preceeding, wouldn't it be more likely to loose the ring lands on the bottom of the pistons instead of holes in the pistons? Suppose that could be more gradual. But as folks said....8 psi...low compression motor, seems odd to suddenly blow a whole through all the pistons nearly at once.
Maybe the shut-down was due to a fuel pump issue, so it was lean for a while prior, and the compression is tied to cracked ring lands.
I'll be hoping not.
Nice choice of therapy~ best wishes.
With respect to immediately preceeding, wouldn't it be more likely to loose the ring lands on the bottom of the pistons instead of holes in the pistons? Suppose that could be more gradual. But as folks said....8 psi...low compression motor, seems odd to suddenly blow a whole through all the pistons nearly at once.
Maybe the shut-down was due to a fuel pump issue, so it was lean for a while prior, and the compression is tied to cracked ring lands.
I'll be hoping not.
#32
I see there only being 1 or two options, both being caused by MASSIVE detonation. From what you have described I would say you either have a hole in each and everyone of your pistons, or you have some massive holes in the head. The latter being far less likely.
I would also drain the oil and look for aluminum particles.
I would also drain the oil and look for aluminum particles.
Once you blew a hole in a few cyclinders the car would either stop running or run very badly....at that point you wouldnt be able to create the power/detonation in remaing cylinders to cause any more "holes"...therefore you should be able to hold pressure on a leak down on at least a few cylinders. Sounds like it skipped timing some how.?
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As said, DEFINITELY drain your oil for sure to see whats goign on
The fuel pump is a good call as well....youve probably increased the demand on it via boost/fueling.
#33
Once you blew a hole in a few cyclinders the car would either stop running or run very badly....at that point you wouldnt be able to create the power/detonation in remaing cylinders to cause any more "holes"...therefore you should be able to hold pressure on a leak down on at least a few cylinders. Sounds like it skipped timing some how.?
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As said, DEFINITELY drain your oil for sure to see whats goign on
The fuel pump is a good call as well....youve probably increased the demand on it via boost/fueling.
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As said, DEFINITELY drain your oil for sure to see whats goign on
The fuel pump is a good call as well....youve probably increased the demand on it via boost/fueling.
This car is pretty loud but wouldn't I have been able to hear detonation (pinging)? It was running really nice right up unitil the "end". Just like someone shut it off.
#34
I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't hear pinging over the exhaust. I will keep my fingers crossed. Look at the bright side, 4.5L motors are cheap....
#35
if you were not going full throttle and keeping the rpms under 4k, i seriously doubt it could have been detonation so bad that it would grenade the entire engine.
you can run most engines at stoich at part throttle, and any leaner just reduces combustion chamber and Cylinder head temps. so, REAL lean is not usually an issue or problem.
this one is a puzzler.
im going back to broken cams as a possiblity, but that doesnt explain all holes being without pressure.
i forgot which way the rotor points, but try and rotate the engine 360 degrees and try a leak down test again. if you are leaking in all cylinders, you certainly dont need to lock the crank. just make sure you are just a tad past TDC, or the engine could spin backward. just make sure you apply the pressure slowly.
this one is a tough one to figure out!
mk
mk
you can run most engines at stoich at part throttle, and any leaner just reduces combustion chamber and Cylinder head temps. so, REAL lean is not usually an issue or problem.
this one is a puzzler.
im going back to broken cams as a possiblity, but that doesnt explain all holes being without pressure.
i forgot which way the rotor points, but try and rotate the engine 360 degrees and try a leak down test again. if you are leaking in all cylinders, you certainly dont need to lock the crank. just make sure you are just a tad past TDC, or the engine could spin backward. just make sure you apply the pressure slowly.
this one is a tough one to figure out!
mk
mk
#36
if you were not going full throttle and keeping the rpms under 4k, i seriously doubt it could have been detonation so bad that it would grenade the entire engine.
you can run most engines at stoich at part throttle, and any leaner just reduces combustion chamber and Cylinder head temps. so, REAL lean is not usually an issue or problem.
this one is a puzzler.
im going back to broken cams as a possiblity, but that doesnt explain all holes being without pressure.
i forgot which way the rotor points, but try and rotate the engine 360 degrees and try a leak down test again. if you are leaking in all cylinders, you certainly dont need to lock the crank. just make sure you are just a tad past TDC, or the engine could spin backward. just make sure you apply the pressure slowly.
this one is a tough one to figure out!
mk
mk
you can run most engines at stoich at part throttle, and any leaner just reduces combustion chamber and Cylinder head temps. so, REAL lean is not usually an issue or problem.
this one is a puzzler.
im going back to broken cams as a possiblity, but that doesnt explain all holes being without pressure.
i forgot which way the rotor points, but try and rotate the engine 360 degrees and try a leak down test again. if you are leaking in all cylinders, you certainly dont need to lock the crank. just make sure you are just a tad past TDC, or the engine could spin backward. just make sure you apply the pressure slowly.
this one is a tough one to figure out!
mk
mk
I sort of had this same thought, so....I ran compressed air into numebr 1 cyl and then turned the crank through a couple of cycles watching the gage to see if at any point in the cycle it would hold air under pressure. It does not.
#39
compressed air in the cylinders will come out in the oil pan or the intake /exhaust. Put it at TDC compression for #1, compress the cylinders or run air through them if they are leaking. listen out the tail pipe for air, or in the intake entrance, and finally, the dipstick hole. that should narrow it down. very puzzling.
mk
mk
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compressed air in the cylinders will come out in the oil pan or the intake /exhaust. Put it at TDC compression for #1, compress the cylinders or run air through them if they are leaking. listen out the tail pipe for air, or in the intake entrance, and finally, the dipstick hole. that should narrow it down. very puzzling.
mk
mk
Here's a thought... are you sure your gauge isn't broken?
#41
Here's a thought... are you sure your gauge isn't broken?
Dennis
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