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Old 04-17-2008, 01:44 PM
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Well, sh** happens. Its a shame the police officer didn't let you hook up the tow eye, but aside from that it sounds like local govt bureaucracy at its typical. When I last had mine towed, it was on an exit ramp and the car had to be towed from the front. The decline of the ramp shoulder was such that reaching under the spoiler was almost impossible. Therefore I have a cracked spoiler today.

Getting steamed about a cop cranking the handle and following the manual is about as useful as whining about taxes. It doesn't help. I'm sure you'll get the damage repaired and there will be better days.

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Old 04-17-2008, 02:20 PM
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The next time an officer refuses to allow you to install the tow eye, get out your cell phone, dial 911 (it's recorded), mention deliberate damage and ask for a Supervisor to respond to the scene before 1000s of dollars of damage are done to you car.

BTW, this police officer is a jerk. I'll bet he spends all day, every day convincing citizens that the police are a******s. From the last two day's posts, I'd say officers like this jerk have been very successful. That's too bad for the good police officers.

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Old 04-17-2008, 04:39 PM
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Just a matter a time before such a vehicle operates autonomous patrols, i.e. unmanned, high speed cameras scanning every license plate in sight, and issuing tickets at an alarming rate.
This is better than the officer discretion of which Jim Bailey spoke. Can't an officer validly check any plate he or she sees on the highway? There is no privacy in our license plates as someone pointed out. But if the officer is selective in running the plates (e.g., profiling) then we have an unjust system. If we have a robot checking everyone's plate, checking everyone's speed on the highway that the automated car encounters, at least it is even in the application of its authority, no matter how great the scope of said authority.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:51 PM
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The direction is moving toward all roads having cameras and speed measuring equipment. When a vehicle is identified as speeding, it will be zapped by a disabler (technology already exists) and remain disabled until the operator inserts his credit card into his onboard computer or cell phone and pays the appropriate fine.

This information will then be electronically transferred to the central insurance processing center for appropriate action.

While this is occurring the camera equipment will have also scanned the iris of the offending citizen and determined if his child support payment is current, what he purchased at the drustore 15 minutes ago and if his parentage matches public records.

His credit score will be adjusted to reflect his unwillingness to abide by system rules and the school his children are enrolled in will have the opportunity to reconsider educating the children of an obvious social deviant.

I can see myself going from average Joe citizen to Utter Social Outcast in one short trip to the dry cleaners.

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Old 04-17-2008, 05:08 PM
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Up around the Oregon region they have been running tests on RFID coil embeded inside the yearly stickers you get from the DMV that you receieve in the mail. I've seen pictures of it, and the presentation of what they are planning to do with it. Its scary as hell.

It won't be long until this goes out of testing into codified into law for every state. At first the cops will have transponders and every car passing them will instantly tell them all the info the DMV wants. If you haven't paid your tickets, or owe some money, suspended license that tell the cop immediately and you're screwed.

Later as technology improves the cars stickers will talk to each other RFID sticker and sniff out if the car drove next to another car that was out of compliance and reveal instantly the car, owner, address, etc...

The days of speeding on anything but a race track will come to close in a decade. Its at the point where techology is going to enslave us more then it benefits us.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dcmelik View Post
This is better than the officer discretion of which Jim Bailey spoke. Can't an officer validly check any plate he or she sees on the highway? There is no privacy in our license plates as someone pointed out. But if the officer is selective in running the plates (e.g., profiling) then we have an unjust system. If we have a robot checking everyone's plate, checking everyone's speed on the highway that the automated car encounters, at least it is even in the application of its authority, no matter how great the scope of said authority.
At first glance your argument seems valid. However, you discount the value of officer discretion which is lost on a mechanical device. Officers are given the use of discretion for good reason; that some abuse it and profile is a price we pay for permiting intelligence to persist. We as Porsche drivers know about this abuse, and must expect it from some rogue cops. I do. But I also expect many others to exercise intelligently their discretion to decipher threatening behaviour from simply assertive behaviour. That's something no machine can do, IMO, as Charley has pointed out.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Red UFO View Post
Wait your a cop with a illegally modified car in CA, the RMB + More! lol

Hey I haven't been killed by a terrorist, therefore terrrorist don't exist.
Maybe you haven't been pulled over because your cop buddies know what you drive and recognize you?

Impounding a car for a month can destroy a persons life. When I was single and had just 1 car how hell do I get to work if the state has stolen my vehicle under a euphemismist phrase of impound?

Thats why I had suspended license violations in the past, I couldn't afford the huge *** fines I got, but had a baby I needed to feed and needed to get to work somehow, legal or not. I put food in that kids mouth and could give crap what Cali law said.

The cop was a dick by not letting this guy get his tow thingy out of the trunk. The cop treated him like he was a wife beater, showed no mercy or reason, but thats to be expected from 'them'.
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to the CONTRARY...my 928 is fully street legal.....all smog systems work and pass the bi-annual smog check, everything is 100% stock besides the RMB which is not ILLEGAL.....there isn't a cop in the state that would look at my RMB and call it an illegal muffler per 27151 CVC since it is simply not that loud...95db is the limit...

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...ction=retrieve


Your perspective on life and law enforcement is quite entertaining, however I strongly caution your attitude when faced with law enforcement ....granted we have never met and I don't know you personally.....but if you still are driving with a suspended license and do get pulled over....then try to "cop" an attitude with the "arresting" officer I am quite confident you will be enjoying the business end of a taser!! Which I can assure you is an experience you will never forget
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:54 PM
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Oh, but is that RMB C.A.R.B. compliant?

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Old 04-17-2008, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17 View Post
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to the CONTRARY...my 928 is fully street legal.....all smog systems work and pass the bi-annual smog check, everything is 100% stock besides the RMB which is not ILLEGAL.....there isn't a cop in the state that would look at my RMB and call it an illegal muffler per 27151 CVC since it is simply not that loud...95db is the limit...

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...ction=retrieve


Your perspective on life and law enforcement is quite entertaining, however I strongly caution your attitude when faced with law enforcement ....granted we have never met and I don't know you personally.....but if you still are driving with a suspended license and do get pulled over....then try to "cop" an attitude with the "arresting" officer I am quite confident you will be enjoying the business end of a taser!! Which I can assure you is an experience you will never forget
I was alluding to another thread where Cali cops busted kids in modified ricers and made some revenue on it.


My 85 Euro is bone stock, my insurance sort of demands it be or they won't cover it(hagerty). I'm no longer driving on suspended license, that I know of. Atleast its good in AZ, but I'm scared of going to CA on vacation and this 15 year old record comes back to haunt me. My cousins are cops in Sonora, CA have been forever, but he gets bored and checks our criminal records, I should ask him the status of my old driving 'crimes'.

I never mouth off to cops in person, not when I'm sober. However my arrest ticket in Kentucky says otherwise but I don't remember a damn thing after the I got near the bottom of that 1/5 of Jack Daniels.

Let me ask would you let this 928 owner get the tow eye out? Is it SOP to deny people that, especially when it comes to safely towing.

//as for the taser only Sith Lord uses them, cops shouldn't IMO
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Red UFO View Post
The days of speeding on anything but a race track will come to close in a decade. Its at the point where techology is going to enslave us more then it benefits us.
Only if we allow it to happen.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:00 PM
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The exhaust pipes from the rear of the cat back are just plumbing and have little effect on emissions. The cat and the other engine related smog items are a different story.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:04 PM
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then try to "cop" an attitude with the "arresting" officer I am quite confident you will be enjoying the business end of a taser!! Which I can assure you is an experience you will never forget.
Can you legally taze someone in California for a "bad" attitude?
What if the physically compliant subject says "F. U" (which is protected speech in the Ninth Circuit), can you legally give him a jolt?

I think you've just proved Red UFO's point.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:21 PM
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The direction is moving toward all roads having cameras and speed measuring equipment. When a vehicle is identified as speeding, it will be zapped by a disabler (technology already exists) and remain disabled until the operator inserts his credit card into his onboard computer or cell phone and pays the appropriate fine.

This information will then be electronically transferred to the central insurance processing center for appropriate action.

While this is occurring the camera equipment will have also scanned the iris of the offending citizen and determined if his child support payment is current, what he purchased at the drustore 15 minutes ago and if his parentage matches public records.

His credit score will be adjusted to reflect his unwillingness to abide by system rules and the school his children are enrolled in will have the opportunity to reconsider educating the children of an obvious social deviant.

I can see myself going from average Joe citizen to Utter Social Outcast in one short trip to the dry cleaners.
nice one. now THAT's friggin scary!!! thx for the nightmares...


relax dudes, I can assure you - Brian is NOT the type of cop that would be an ahole to anyone.... I only wish we had more like him
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 928SS View Post
..............relax dudes, I can assure you - Brian is NOT the type of cop that would be an ahole to anyone.... I only wish we had more like him
Of course, he is perfectly capable of returning the favor if his "customer" chooses to be an a$$hole. I believe it's called "attitude adjustment".
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Charley B View Post
The direction is moving toward all roads having cameras and speed measuring equipment. When a vehicle is identified as speeding, it will be zapped by a disabler (technology already exists) and remain disabled until the operator inserts his credit card into his onboard computer or cell phone and pays the appropriate fine.

This information will then be electronically transferred to the central insurance processing center for appropriate action.

While this is occurring the camera equipment will have also scanned the iris of the offending citizen and determined if his child support payment is current, what he purchased at the drustore 15 minutes ago and if his parentage matches public records.

His credit score will be adjusted to reflect his unwillingness to abide by system rules and the school his children are enrolled in will have the opportunity to reconsider educating the children of an obvious social deviant.

I can see myself going from average Joe citizen to Utter Social Outcast in one short trip to the dry cleaners.
Hey Charley,

I'll be a need'n crew for the sailin vessel in a few years - I'm sign'n yer on!

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