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Why are the front brake rotors uniquely specified on each side?

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Old 02-08-2008, 03:37 PM
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Just spinning a curved vs straight rotor will show you the difference.
spin it at high speed and it is obvious.
no one will notice, as you say, except if you are tracking your car

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Originally Posted by Mike Simard
Any vane creates a centrigal blower.
The vanes being straight or curved is probably not as important as you might think. I don't believe that any of us would ever notice the difference between a straight or curved vane. I have curved vanes on my rotors but wouldn't feel less confidant if they were straight.
Old 02-08-2008, 03:45 PM
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I think a better response to this is that all these things that porsche did were with purpose and do work. however, when they work to a point where most will notice, is the question. they made a car that could race 24hous of lemans out of the box! vented rotors, brake ducts, are just a few of the things porsche did to make the car work best under extreme circumstances. Most of us will never use a fraction of the cars design purpose on the street. (even if we try)

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Since curved vane rotors must be more difficult to cast there has to be concrete benefit they bring. Othervise Porsche would not have bothered adding them.
Old 02-08-2008, 04:29 PM
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Other than the benefit of cooler brakes, you are also pulling heat outward away from the wheel bearing. I have heard of people killing wheel bearings with rotors installed backwards even though they didn't feel any braking difference.
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thats also tough to believe, in that my bearings are subjected to such higher temps. an order of magnatude higher than any kind of street drving,and mine lasted 6 years and 91 race days. this is probably a side effect of the radially flowing brake rotors, but i dont think it would hurt anything even over the long haul. I would have no problem putting on S4 rotors on backward if it was ONLY a street car. want proof, look how sucessful the early 928s were with no special rotors and hockey pucks for brake pads.

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Other than the benefit of cooler brakes, you are also pulling heat outward away from the wheel bearing. I have heard of people killing wheel bearings with rotors installed backwards even though they didn't feel any braking difference.
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Ok, this thread is getting silly.
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Ok, this thread is getting silly.
928 owners silly? No way.
It's good that the OT crowd isn't here to see this. We wouldn't want anyone to know that yes, we are babbling nutcases, it's our little secret!
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Pouring molten iron into a mold is about the same no matter the shape of the vanes really very little difference. Obviously some one felt that the curved vanes work better...it is the % improvement that is unknown. Note that the passages are smaller toward the center and bigger near the outer edge....would that be a venturi ?
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Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
Pouring molten iron into a mold is about the same no matter the shape of the vanes really very little difference. Obviously some one felt that the curved vanes work better...it is the % improvement that is unknown. Note that the passages are smaller toward the center and bigger near the outer edge....would that be a venturi ?
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Having carefully drilled the chamfered a whole bunch of holes in a pattern which missed all the ribs I really know what they look like I also lightly ported them and removed some of the flashing ... I must have been having a Brendan moment
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you really need to chamfer the inside of the holes as well as the outside to prevent cracks from them being drilled. So far I have yet to find a tool to do this.
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I want to know if you put the rotors on backwards, what will happen if the car is on a conveyor belt....
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Originally Posted by Lizard931
you really need to chamfer the inside of the holes as well as the outside to prevent cracks from them being drilled. So far I have yet to find a tool to do this.
They definitely make a tool for this. What size is the hole and I will see if I can come up with something for you. Used everywhere in the automotive industry. Can make it into something like 2mm holes.

If straight vanes and curved vanes are the same turbo chargers would have straight vanes.
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman
If straight vanes and curved vanes are the same turbo chargers would have straight vanes.
And water pumps
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman
If straight vanes and curved vanes are the same turbo chargers would have straight vanes.

I've actually made sraight vaned turbo impellors and they worked very well.

This is getting silly. The original point was that the curve may not be as critical as some might think, not that they are identical.
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Originally Posted by jon928se
It's that US English versus UK English - two countries separated by a common language. (Also applies between NZ and OZ, UK and NZ, OZ and NZ etc.)

Sometimes it can be very difficult to describe something without being unintentionally ambiguous in supposedly the same language read in a different country. Hence the simplistic approach. Apologies if it offends - Not the intention.
I think it has something to do with you guys being in the southern hemisphere. Everything goes backwords there, like when water flows down the sink drain. It spins the opposite direction of up here in the Northern Hemisphere.

No wonder its tricky to describe.


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