What happened to 928 Forum Magazine?
01-03-2008, 07:39 PM
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928 Forum Drama
Come on Adam....this was not all benign like you make it out...I seem to remember way more drama than that...Our antics would put both Metallica and Motley Crue to shame 
All the booze, women , drugs..waking up in unfamiliar places...all the long road trips, and the eventual incarceration of several of the group. Remember that time we had to call home to get bail money and then produced probably what will be remembered as the best issue to date..wow...what a long strange trip that was.
Man..those were awesome times.... I remember them well
Later,
Tom
All the booze, women , drugs..waking up in unfamiliar places...all the long road trips, and the eventual incarceration of several of the group. Remember that time we had to call home to get bail money and then produced probably what will be remembered as the best issue to date..wow...what a long strange trip that was.
Man..those were awesome times.... I remember them well
Later,
Tom
Hi All,
I think I can definitely give some insight into 928 Forum Magazine.
It was created by a group of 928 owners here in the Pac NW. At first it was an enthusiastic and large group. The pool of talent seemed sufficient to sustain the project. We had a person who could do layout, a couple folks that knew IT, others that could take pictures, a few that could write. And best of all, the labor was cheap (read: FREE).
We started out decent out of the gate, but never met our mark to keep the mag afloat, although maybe with time we may have. The problem was that we had lots of people subscribe, but not everyone paid. A lot of folks didn't pay. That's a problem because when you publish a mag, you are commited to a certain volume, whether or not you sell each issue. We were at the minimum volume, so it didn't really matter what we did with the magazines since we had paid for them. So, since the cost of the individual magazine per each issue was a sunk cost, I sent out the mags and relied on people paying after the fact. I could have held them and said pay on your subscription request before I send this out, but frankly, I didn't have time to micromanage the subscription list, I was already out the money, and truly thought the people would pay once they got the mag. Some did, a lot didn't, but since the mags were already paid for I kept sending them out and occasionally following up with people asking for payment. When the second Volume (year 2) started, I was still committed, and shipped it out to everyone on the previous year's subscriber list with the hope that they would re-up. Most didn't.
But internally the mag staff just withered away. People were going through a lot in their personal lives, and just didn't have the time to commit to the magazine. When the layout person dropped off, that was the end of the line for 928 Forum being produced by volunteers.
Obviously I'm very disappointed in how it all turned out. I am very thankful to those who were on the Mag staff that stuck it out to the extent that they did, and to all the folks that contributed. If anyone has any questions at all regarding the Magazine, I invite you to email me directly at
atb928@comcast.net
)
-Adam Birnbaum
Former Editor
928 Forum Magazine
I think I can definitely give some insight into 928 Forum Magazine.
It was created by a group of 928 owners here in the Pac NW. At first it was an enthusiastic and large group. The pool of talent seemed sufficient to sustain the project. We had a person who could do layout, a couple folks that knew IT, others that could take pictures, a few that could write. And best of all, the labor was cheap (read: FREE).
We started out decent out of the gate, but never met our mark to keep the mag afloat, although maybe with time we may have. The problem was that we had lots of people subscribe, but not everyone paid. A lot of folks didn't pay. That's a problem because when you publish a mag, you are commited to a certain volume, whether or not you sell each issue. We were at the minimum volume, so it didn't really matter what we did with the magazines since we had paid for them. So, since the cost of the individual magazine per each issue was a sunk cost, I sent out the mags and relied on people paying after the fact. I could have held them and said pay on your subscription request before I send this out, but frankly, I didn't have time to micromanage the subscription list, I was already out the money, and truly thought the people would pay once they got the mag. Some did, a lot didn't, but since the mags were already paid for I kept sending them out and occasionally following up with people asking for payment. When the second Volume (year 2) started, I was still committed, and shipped it out to everyone on the previous year's subscriber list with the hope that they would re-up. Most didn't.
But internally the mag staff just withered away. People were going through a lot in their personal lives, and just didn't have the time to commit to the magazine. When the layout person dropped off, that was the end of the line for 928 Forum being produced by volunteers.
Obviously I'm very disappointed in how it all turned out. I am very thankful to those who were on the Mag staff that stuck it out to the extent that they did, and to all the folks that contributed. If anyone has any questions at all regarding the Magazine, I invite you to email me directly at
atb928@comcast.net
)-Adam Birnbaum
Former Editor
928 Forum Magazine
01-03-2008, 08:08 PM
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01-03-2008, 09:01 PM
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Adam,
Glad you told the story of why the Magazine stopped. I had tremendous guilt that it was my upcoming story and you having to pay for some pictures that got the magazine into trouble. I wanted to reimburse you for those by the way but never got a reply back on my offer.
I do remember the magazines were getting better with each issue. It was a worthy venture but from the little I know about the magazine business, it is all consuming. Thanks to you and the others for giving us "our" magazine for a while. It is missed...
Cheers,
Constantine
Glad you told the story of why the Magazine stopped. I had tremendous guilt that it was my upcoming story and you having to pay for some pictures that got the magazine into trouble.
I wanted to reimburse you for those by the way but never got a reply back on my offer.I do remember the magazines were getting better with each issue. It was a worthy venture but from the little I know about the magazine business, it is all consuming. Thanks to you and the others for giving us "our" magazine for a while. It is missed...
Cheers,
Constantine
01-03-2008, 09:35 PM
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Come on Adam....this was not all benign like you make it out...I seem to remember way more drama than that...Our antics would put both Metallica and Motley Crue to shame
All the booze, women , drugs..waking up in unfamiliar places...all the long road trips, and the eventual incarceration of several of the group. Remember that time we had to call home to get bail money and then produced probably what will be remembered as the best issue to date..wow...what a long strange trip that was.
All the booze, women , drugs..waking up in unfamiliar places...all the long road trips, and the eventual incarceration of several of the group. Remember that time we had to call home to get bail money and then produced probably what will be remembered as the best issue to date..wow...what a long strange trip that was.
01-03-2008, 09:38 PM
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How about an auction. More money for Haiti.
I'll make a starting bid of 2x times cover price for a copy of every issue you've got.
I'll make a starting bid of 2x times cover price for a copy of every issue you've got.
01-04-2008, 02:17 AM
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Yeah, remember this cel phone conversation while getting the Mark A racecar story?:
Me: Tom, wait IN FRONT of the terminal so I can see you, I'm driving by right now.
Tom: I AM in front of the terminal.
Me: I don't see you.
Tom: I'm right here.
Me: Did you get a ticket for LAX or Ontario?
Tom: Uh oh.
Yeah that Middleton, always a kidder.
Note: Happy Flappy was the name of Adam's Editors Column
Glad you told the story of why the Magazine stopped. I had tremendous guilt that it was my upcoming story and you having to pay for some pictures that got the magazine into trouble. I wanted to reimburse you for those by the way but never got a reply back on my offer.
I think I remember seeing that about you guys on one of those behind the scenes type of shows on SpeedVision a while back. Yup, pretty sure it was you guys.
How about an auction. More money for Haiti.
I'll make a starting bid of 2x times cover price for a copy of every issue you've got.
I'll make a starting bid of 2x times cover price for a copy of every issue you've got.
01-04-2008, 01:21 PM
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I was sorting through my library over the Holiday, and found all the 928 Forum mags. I skimmed and read through soem articles. I was impressed, as I was then, to the contribution and quality of it all. I'm glad to have them in my collection.
If I hadn't said it before, thanks Adam and all who put 928 Forum together.
If I hadn't said it before, thanks Adam and all who put 928 Forum together.
01-04-2008, 02:04 PM
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Wasn't that more like the wrong terminal (out of three to choose from)?...my memory from that long ago is fading fading ....fading .
Later,
Tom
Quote ATB:
Yeah, remember this cel phone conversation while getting the Mark A racecar story?:
Me: Tom, wait IN FRONT of the terminal so I can see you, I'm driving by right now.
Tom: I AM in front of the terminal.
Me: I don't see you.
Tom: I'm right here.
Me: Did you get a ticket for LAX or Ontario?
Tom: Uh oh.
Yeah that Middleton, always a kidder.
.Later,
Tom
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Yeah, remember this cel phone conversation while getting the Mark A racecar story?:
Me: Tom, wait IN FRONT of the terminal so I can see you, I'm driving by right now.
Tom: I AM in front of the terminal.
Me: I don't see you.
Tom: I'm right here.
Me: Did you get a ticket for LAX or Ontario?
Tom: Uh oh.
Yeah that Middleton, always a kidder.
01-04-2008, 07:10 PM
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...what a long strange trip that was.
Marton
Last edited by marton; 01-04-2008 at 07:12 PM. Reason: do not spell well after the second bottle of cabernet-shiraz
