JK McDonald

Avoid this guy at all costs – I bought a Porsche wheel with center cap on ebay from this guy only to receive the wheel missing the center cap. He 1st promised to send a cap or refund part of my money. Then after I had a new tire mounted on the wheel, the mechanic found that all of the mounting lug nut holes were wallowed out beyond safe limits. Frank then said I was over reacting but just ship the wheel back to him and he would refund my money plus the return shipping cost. Once the wheel was received he dropped off the map. This was my first purchase on Ebay - who basically said “That is the saddest story they every heard – take a flying leap”.

At this point I am out the price of the wheel, the center cap, the mounting-balancing /dismounting the tire and the shipping to California.

Avoid socalbrit5@yahoo.com Frank Clark located at 2346 East Cameron Ave, West Covina Ca, 91791 at all costs.

Ebay recommended taking Frank Clark to court - Any other ideas ?
Thanks, Karen

What is a long time lurker ? I have bought quite a few 911 and 928 parts from several sites on the internet. This was my first experience with ebay and Frank Clark. Ebay said he was not around any more.

SeanR

Welcome to Rennlist.

Are you only visiting here to warn us of a bad e-bay deal? Or have you been a long time lurker and this has motivated you to post?

On Edit, nevermind, I see you've spammed all of the Porsche forums, not just Rennlist.

j.kenzie@sbcglobal.net

Ebay is risky. I only deal with sellers with excellent feedback. Once you lose your money you are probalbly out of luck, although you can at least leave bad feedback for him. Be forewarned, he will probalby leave retaliatory bad feedback for you, if you do; so give it some serious thought. I still get cheated or deceived on very rare occasions, and I consider it the cost of bargain-hunting.
Good luck and welcome to the forum.

Giovanni

Thanks for the warning. Not defending the seller, sounds like a real jerk, but he has a horrible feedback. Last month he had 1 neutral feedback and 3 negative feedbacks. As pointed out in pelican, did you pay with a CC? If so you can dispute the charged. Same for paypal.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Wade T

Just went through something similar yet worse. Got stiffed $850 on a guitar. The seller, who had no ebay history, also stiffed another buyer for the other guitar he had forsale at the sametime. Anyways, file a complaint through paypal. I was lucky in this case getting $825 back from PP freezing his account. The whole ordeal took 3 weeks and I learned alot.

First, file a complaint with ebay for item sent but not as described. He will then have 10 days to respond in the dispute console.

If the seller hasn't swept their account and there is still money in it, PayPal will have "frozen" the account until the claims are paid out.

If you DID pay using a credit card, you should call your credit card company and just "ask" about the charge back procedure. If they can assure you that you're covered, cancel the PayPal dispute and go with them instead. You cannot do bot at the same time.

In the event PayPal can't get any money back for you and you didn't pay with a credit card that will cover you, start filing with the following agencies.

* eBay's Fraud Protection Program. > > http://crs.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?crsstartpage
* Seller's local police department > > http://www.usacops.com/
* State, County & City Government Consumer Protection Offices > > http://www.consumeraction.gov/state.shtml
* USPS Mail Fraud Complaint Form > > http://www.framed.usps.com/postalins...dComplaint.htm
* IFCC > > (http://www.ic3.gov).
* FTC Federal Trade Commission > > http://www.ftc.gov/
* FTC Consumer Complaint Form > > https://rn.ftc.gov/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01
****** Or call toll-free 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357)
* Internet Crime Complaint Center > > http://www.ic3.gov/
* NFIC National Fraud Information Center > > Call 1-800-876-7060 or visit www.fraud.org
* Department of Justice Reporting Computer, Internet-Related, or Intellectual Property Crime > > http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm
* Reporting Schemes, Scams, Frauds:
Includes International Resources and US Federal & State Resources > > http://crimes-of-persuasion.com/Victims/reporting.htm
* Auctionbytes Online Fraud Resource Center > > http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/pages/fraud
* Consumer Sentinel > > http://www.consumer.gov/sentinel/
* The BBB (Better Business Bureau)> > http://www.bbb.org/
* BBB Online Complaint Form > > http://www.bbb.org/bbbcomplaints/Welcome.asp
* International Fraud--econsumer.gov > > http://www.econsumer.gov/english/index.html
* econsumer.gov Complaint Form > > https://www.econsumer.gov/imsn/wimsnery2$com.main?p_lang_seq=1

Marcquito

*writes those links down*

RyanPerrella

guys,

I dont think this guy will be back to see our suggestions, if this is all over other message boards then i doubt this buy wil come back to check, so all your suggestions maybe falling of deaf ears

Charley B

This guy signed his name, Karen, and he/she should be getting e-mail notification of consequent posts.

linderpat

She has been a registered user on Pelican since 2003 and probably views all of these boards regularly (she evidently has an 84 928). I'm glad for the heads up

macfly4

why is everyone giving this guy such a hard time? its a heads up so others might not get burned. its not like he is asking anyone to buy anything or plugging some service.
sheesh. lighten up. sometimes people actually appreciate that.

MGW-Fla

Just to have access to all of those links to the agencies that Wade posted is very helpful. I can't imagine the time it took to track them all down. That has to be a help to someone at some point. Just hope that its never me........
Thanks!

Randy V

Nice!

I've added this to the forum FAQ - is that OK, Wade?

https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...3&postcount=21

Wade T

Please do Randy. Anything help bust internet thieves.

SeanR

Take a look at the person she/he bought from. 97% good feedback and I agree with Danglerb on this one, most of the negatives are from buyers I'd not want to do buisness with.

What strikes me as amusing on this, this person just registered to complain. Now if they had registered and asked for a wheel, I know where about a dozen of them are, in great shape, that will prob never be used again. Since you are close to Houston, it could have been shipped and you would have had it next day UPS at a ground shipping cost.

The guy you bought it from, is doing lots of buisness on e-bay. Currently has 57 items up for sale.