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Old 03-02-2012, 11:36 PM
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You are right Greg as far as you have to be lucky goes.

More often I am caught because the cop sits in the bush off the road with the radar off and waits till i go by and then lasers me. Unless I catch him lasering someone else it dose not go off.
When it dose normally he still has the first guy pulled over.

I like my Beltronics RX 65 best
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 928mac
You are right Greg as far as you have to be lucky goes.

More often I am caught because the cop sits in the bush off the road with the radar off and waits till i go by and then lasers me. Unless I catch him lasering someone else it dose not go off.
When it dose normally he still has the first guy pulled over.

I like my Beltronics RX 65 best
I wish they all used lasers, we can defeat that, it is the IO and the timed stuff that we can not do much about.

The last time I got caught was because I had gotten used to the V1 going off all the time and simply ignored it.
It went in the closet that day and I ordered my first GPS detector.

The very first time my buddie took one of the HEAT teams lasers out we were sitting in the lot of my shop and he was showing me how it worked, we clocked some cars going by, I turned my 9500Ci on and from about ten feet he pointed the laser at the rear sensor and that laser did not work again for about 4 hours.
I do not have a reason for that, but it happened, I was there.
Old 03-03-2012, 04:41 AM
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Pity, in Australia detectors are banned by state governments in all but Western Australia. Despite Federal radio/telephony rules, stating that a passive radio receiving device is NOT illegal! Despite the fact that it's proved drivers with radar detectors are generally better drivers. Annoys the cr&p outta me! :/ Those (silly enough) caught with a detector, face a substantial fine and loss of many demerit points off the licence. Pity!
Old 03-03-2012, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Which Right?

Originally Posted by jheis
The right to confront and cross-examine the witness against you. James
That's the one! Thanks for being James on the Spot. It's a biggie, imo. Bad things happen when the cops can phone it in.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...n/amendment06/
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...nt06/08.html#1
''The primary object of the constitutional provision in question was to prevent depositions of ex parte affidavits . . . being used against the prisoner in lieu of a personal examination and cross- examination of the witness in which the accused has an opportunity not only of testing the recollection and sifting the conscience of the witness, but of compelling him to stand face to face with the jury in order that they may look at him, and judge by his demeanor upon the stand and the manner in which he gives his testimony whether he is worthy of belief'' 145 The right of confrontation is ''[o]ne of the fundamental guarantees of life and liberty . . . long deemed so essential for the due protection of life and liberty that it is guarded against legislative and judicial action by provisions in the Constitution of the United States and in the constitutions of most if not of all the States composing the Union.'' 146
Old 03-03-2012, 10:26 AM
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I stumbled across this thread looking for some input on the "what is the best new tech" RD... perfect timing .

I've been a loyal V1 user since '94 and I'm on my 4th. One of the beauties of them is how well they hold their value. Rather than upgrading as they incrementally added bands, pop, etc, is that I can easily sell a 4-5 year old unit for $359+shipping. I love renting these for 4-5 years and I'm only out $50!

While I am a V1 believer, mostly because of sensitivity, but also because of the directional arrows, I find myself longing for those features combined with some of the new technology brought to the table by Passport/Beltronics. I would love to do a side-by-side test of one of the high tech Passports and my current 6-year old V1.

My primary interests are 1) Ka range/sensativity and 2) off-angle laser detection. From what I've experienced with my V1 while traveling in packs, the V1 excels in Ka range so much that other people doubt my alert until they are embarrassed... and they've had relatively recent Passport and Bel models, but not the newest stuff. If the other brands have caught up with V1 in range in real-world use (not the biased online test reports), then I would consider plopping down the $500+ entry fee for a trial period at least.

The really cool new feature that I like the concept of from Passport is the iPhone app with shared/communication alerts from other owners on the same road as you. My only concern with that technology is the prohibitive entry cost and how that will slow adoption. If I knew there was a good chance that someone else 2-5-20-60 miles ahead of me on a road trip also had the iPhone app setup running on the Passport, I would be more inclined to buy one, but I suspect it will take some time to see that level of proliferation.

Has anyone used the iPhone radar warning/networking arrangement yet and can share first-hand experience?
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How long before the Police start entering their favorite hidey spots in the community GPS?
Old 03-03-2012, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RKD in OKC
How long before the Police start entering their favorite hidey spots in the community GPS?
I don't think you understand how the GPS based detectors work, there is zero chance of them doing that.

They have to actually see the same radar three times before they will lock it out, but only that radar band is locked out, for one radar, if they have another radar that is on the same band it will still alert.
In essence all the GPS based units do is lock out false signals that YOU have been to three times.
Mine has never went off after learning a area unless it was a LEO, it just stays quite the rest of the time.

For many of us the biggest issue with a non GPS based unit like the STI-r, the Redline and the V1 is they go off so much you get complacent, and that is the cardinal sin of using a RD.

It happens and it has happened to me.
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I was talking about the GPS with the iPhone app for collecting data.

I don't use my detector for around town, there is just too much traffic to worry about radar traps. So, not an issue with "All the alarms". However, when I do use it around town, I must have a GPS brain, I remembers not only the false alarm places, but how many sources there are in each so if there is an extra I slow and sure enough, a gun runner in a source rich area.
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The iPhone app I'm talking about isn't "Trapster" or similar which relies on active user input, I'm talking about the new Passport add-on Bluetooth smart cord with iPhone app that automatically alerts other system/network users about real-time radar on the road that you are currently driving on. It tracks active alerts detected by other Passport units on the road ahead of you and warns you before you get there - before your Passport is in range to detect the alert itself.
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One other message.....if you are in a group of "drivers" and the cop blows past you to get the lead driver. Immediately turn around or get off the road.
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I know a guy who was "testing" his 993 Turbo against a Mustang Cobra. LEO pulled behind them after they did 110 mph. Cobra pulled over... ticket, maybe more. 993 kept going... no ticket.



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