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Old 10-11-2002, 09:53 AM
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Question Windshield Stickers/Foil base?

I just bought my first 928 - 88 S4 A/T, had a hard time keeping it under 80 on the way home.

Reading the owners manual it says that those w/ Sekuriflex windshields need to apply a foil base before applying registration stickers to the inside of the windshield. How do I know if I have this type of windshield? And if I do where do I get the foil bases?

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Old 10-11-2002, 11:26 AM
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I think that all US-delivered cars came with laminated windscreens, two layers of glass with the plastic sandwiched between them. The Sekuriflex windscreen has the a plastic layer on the inside of just one layer of glass, rather than sandwiched/protected by an inner glass layer. The foil patch is used to allow you to remove the sticker later.

You can check the name on the glass to be sure that it isn't Sekuriflex, and it's also pretty easy to tell if there's plastic instead of glass on the inside. Also, if the glass has ever been replaced in the US, you can be sure that it's laminated safety glass and not the plastic-lined piece.

I saw that same warning in the manual when I bought my car, and asked the same question at the dealer where I took delivery. They had no clue, and had to make a couple phone calls to PCNA in Reno to get the answer. I wanted to take the Colorado inpection sticker out of the front screen, as they are not used in California anyway.

Enjoy the new car!
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Thanks dr bob - I'll take a look tonight - just picked up my plates from DMV....
Old 10-12-2002, 12:02 AM
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I'm sorry, but I have to correct Dr. Bob's description of the securiflex windshield. It is actually a four layered approach - from the outside to the inside you find the following layers:

- glass
- plastic
- glass
- plastic

This was developed to reduce injuries in case of head/glass contact. It was done before Airbags were widely used, and when there were still too many "boneheads" who believed they would not even need a safety belt. Thank god safety belt usage has grown (to about 70% in US, 90% in Europe), and airbags have been added to most new cars. Therefore, the Securiflex does not add much safety anymore.

The tricky thing was to clean the windshield, and to put stickers on. The plastic layer on the inside was soft, and had a tendency to get "milky" when cleaned with the wrong cleaner. Similarly, adhesive from stickers could discolor the material, or damage it upon removal.

I have never seen a US 928 model with the Sekuriflex windshield. If your car has it, it should be edged into the glass. Note that "Securiflex" and "Securit" are two different things - the latter being the name of the glass manufacturer.

Hope this helps. Drive safely, and always buckle up!
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[quote]Originally posted by Nicole:
<strong>I'm sorry, but I have to correct Dr. Bob's description of the securiflex windshield. It is actually a four layered approach - from the outside to the inside you find the following layers:

- glass
- plastic
- glass
- plastic

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Man, I'm just getting hit from all sides!




Thanks to Nicole for adding the clarity.

The description that PCNA gave me was that they made the Sekuriflex to gain the shatter resistance but reduce the distortion inherent in the multi-layer glass screens. May be bunk, as I also trust Nicole's German experience more than I trust some of the clerks that PCNA employed at the time.

No matter, we still don't need to find foil patches for window stickers for US cars.

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