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Old 10-19-2007 | 10:57 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ksid=p3907.m32

I e-mailed the guy (maybe it's someone here?) and the pictures that came back are not at all very nice. Two dents on both sides of the car on the fenders. Looks like someone tried to repair it or something, it looks pretty awful. The interior has stains (it's a light color), some wear on the seats and the center console around the shifter area it "open", by which I mean on the passenger side there's a gap between the upper portion of the console and the sides. Also, I have noticed that on the passenger side is a Dunlop tire, and on the other side a yokohama.

So my question is, would you believe the seller when he says it's been well taken care of, driven carefully, and the mechanics are fantastic?
Old 10-19-2007 | 11:06 PM
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I'd guess wholesale car.

257,000 miles? umm...
Old 10-19-2007 | 11:16 PM
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Side note, there's a car on craigslist 85 with auto for 1495. The timing belt seems to had lost it's will to live. That can be a real expensive undertaking yes?
Old 10-19-2007 | 11:23 PM
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The timing belt seems to had lost it's will to live. That can be a real expensive undertaking yes?
DIY job? About $800 including water pump. If belt failed while engine running? More than the car is worth.
Old 10-19-2007 | 11:27 PM
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Take your time. You'll find the right car. I looked for months and finally found one in LA. Count on spending some cash / sweat / cussing to get it up to suitable condition. I have been advised that a good body is what's important because you can replace or repair the mechanicals. Paint for a 928 around here can run into the ten thousand dollar range for a quality job plus rubber trim and gaskets.
On the other hand, my engine burns zero oil, has 200,000 miles on it, and still performs well. Keep looking because this doesn't seem like the right one for you if you are disgusted with poor body condition. Maybe you should be down at Sharktoberfest. looking there.....?
I paid $5600 for my car about 5 1/2 years and 75,000 miles ago. I expected to put about $3000 into it immediately. I expect about $2000 a year maitenance. All this to drive a supercar GT that would cost over $100,000 to buy new today. Look at it that way. I know of a great condition '86.5 w/only 120,000 miles on it in my area. Well maintained, great body with only one small miniscule ding in the lower front fender that could be removed with paintless dent removal and touched up, good interior. He wants $12,000 for it. If I had it I would plunk it down today and stash that car in my garage on stands for a rainy day. (no, I won't tell you where it is, 'cause I want it, and he is in no hurry to sell it. in fact you never heard of this. I was simply dreaming out loud.)
Old 10-19-2007 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Charley B
DIY job? About $800 including water pump. If belt failed while engine running? More than the car is worth.
Except an 85 is an interference motor, unless a Euro, so you are likely look at pulling the heads and replacing valves. I bought a car that had that done and the DIY cost for the PO was $4k.

I will probably put my 84 on ebay Sunday.
Old 10-19-2007 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hitbyastick

So my question is, would you believe the seller when he says it's been well taken care of, driven carefully, and the mechanics are fantastic?


Well, if you play your cards right and hold out a little bit I think he may throw in the bridge and the Arizona oceanfront property to seal the deal.


"windshield-linear defect;two low fender dents; no mechanical problems;not smoked in Maintence/repairs: 2006: new Timing belt, 2005-brake relining 2007 ; A/C compressor,dryer;Engine-tune-up Rebuilt Engine 100 K

History of ownership-original owner;Driven very carefully=witness totally only brake lining was at 230,000 miles Accidents-none"


"8 pictures has been sent to him today"


Ack. Why am I so suspicious of internet ads with poor grammar? I should be more understanding. After all, no scammer in his right mind is going to offer a 257,000 mile car as bait, right? This actually may be the original owner as claimed- run a Carfax.

This car should not have been listed with a reserve, IMO.
Old 10-20-2007 | 12:12 AM
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Ron_H, where did you say that car was....interior is probably great....california???

I bought a car off ebay this month. I was lucky. Truely, lucky. I agree with others..description is poor. When were the "8" pictures he sent you taken. Pleae be patient. Wait for "your" car. Read everything you can on this forum, and bookmark it, read it again. I have found that there are alot of folks here that will help you.

Good Luck.
Old 10-20-2007 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net
Except an 85 is an interference motor, unless a Euro,
An 85 Euro would definitely be interference.
Old 10-20-2007 | 01:40 PM
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Here is a '86.5 5speed listed as a '85. Dealership and they still want a bit much for it IMHO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARD-...Item#mainImage
Old 10-20-2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shane
Here is a '86.5 5speed listed as a '85. Dealership and they still want a bit much for it IMHO.
Blasphemy! That's a great price for a '86.5!

That one was right behind mine on the assembly line - 1198. Heated seats must be nice when it dips down to 70°, there.
Old 10-20-2007 | 02:31 PM
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When purchasing on Ebay I found this works. Redefine the terms of sale.

Send the seller an e-mail and state that you'll only bid over $x000 if he agrees to these conditions on the sale (1) a post-purchase PPI at your expense and choice of dealer, (2) your option to cancel the purchase if the PPI shows more than $x000 in maintenance or repairs are needed for safe, reliable driving (option so you can renegotiate), and, if t-belt is due, his warranty that it will make it into your mechanic's garage. If the price is over $15,000, he'll take the deal. At least my seller did. If the seller balks, he knows something bad about the car. It costs nothing to ask.
Old 10-20-2007 | 03:16 PM
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Ron_H where's that car? Seriously if it's a 5sp I'm in the market and willing to travel for the right car. I've been looking at that 86.5 on ebay that's listed as an 85, bid a couple times. It looks pretty good but he definitely wants too much, and it's been relisted at least three times.
Old 10-21-2007 | 12:01 AM
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I looked at the 85 on Craigslist today. It had been rearended and both rear bumper shocks are collapsed, a decent black paint respray, the front bumper panel also shows impact damage. The engine is partially dismanteled and in the hatchback. The interior is in poor to average condition. IMO $500 max.



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