928 Chevy Hybrid
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928 Chevy Hybrid
Okay, I've been waiting for some one to bid on this Hybrid. No bids. Looks like a clean install. The valve covers are unique. Where are the S/B Chevy fans on this one?
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I am intrigued by this car, and the seller certainly talks the talk. He's clearly an enthusiast.
I think this would be a blast.
Those Porschevy (did I just coin a term?) valve covers are something else
I think this would be a blast.
Those Porschevy (did I just coin a term?) valve covers are something else
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Anthony!
Shame, Heresy...Stay thy tongue.
It would be a hoot to finally get to use that Hot Rod Magazine, 50 bolt on tips for Chev SB big HP edition.
Abby,
You probably posted already...
How's your HP looking?
How's the Bambino?
Nicole,
My word!
Your almost paranoid enough to vote the straight Republican ticket.
Personally, I don't think I'm suspicious enough ....yet.
P.S. Opps, ooooh, that "Needs a carb post," sorry...
Shame, Heresy...Stay thy tongue.
It would be a hoot to finally get to use that Hot Rod Magazine, 50 bolt on tips for Chev SB big HP edition.
Abby,
You probably posted already...
How's your HP looking?
How's the Bambino?
Nicole,
My word!
Your almost paranoid enough to vote the straight Republican ticket.
Personally, I don't think I'm suspicious enough ....yet.
P.S. Opps, ooooh, that "Needs a carb post," sorry...
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I'd jump on it if it were a late model Chevy engine, LT1 or LS1. The older carb models are nice but fuel injection offers much better driveability. And you can log, diagnose and tune them with any laptop.
I've converted mine 2 years ago, a result of the same problems he had. It sat for 5 years, ran good but had oil and vacuum leaks galore. The estimate I got to rebuild the 16 valve was closer to 15K with some modifications of course, but still triple the price of a new Chevy crate engine with 350 HP.
If I had some $$ to burn; I'd get this one, take out the old Chevy engine and sell it. And then with the remaining conversion kit, install a fuel injected LT1. It would make one heck of a nice 928.
I've converted mine 2 years ago, a result of the same problems he had. It sat for 5 years, ran good but had oil and vacuum leaks galore. The estimate I got to rebuild the 16 valve was closer to 15K with some modifications of course, but still triple the price of a new Chevy crate engine with 350 HP.
If I had some $$ to burn; I'd get this one, take out the old Chevy engine and sell it. And then with the remaining conversion kit, install a fuel injected LT1. It would make one heck of a nice 928.
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WHY I ASK? WHY? That is like me taking a 1957 Chevy Bel Air and putting a 390 FORD engine in it. You know I should do that just to **** off the Chevy boys. Professor Prosche made a solid engine. Just drive the 928 for looooooooooooooong periods of time and it will be as reliable as a Honda Accord. I'm just now learning this.
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Why you ask?
Because nothing is sacred anymore. And money is an object.
If the 390 Ford was 1/3 the cost of an original 283 Chevy, then I say why not go with the Ford? You'd have a hell of a lot more performance
But I would agree that in restoring a classic and wanting it to remain a classic, OEM is the way to go. The difference is that some car people have different ideas and desires than others.
Because nothing is sacred anymore. And money is an object.
If the 390 Ford was 1/3 the cost of an original 283 Chevy, then I say why not go with the Ford? You'd have a hell of a lot more performance
But I would agree that in restoring a classic and wanting it to remain a classic, OEM is the way to go. The difference is that some car people have different ideas and desires than others.
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Having built a race type 400cid myself,(472sb)These motors grunt out low end tourqe like thers no tomorrow. That said they dont pull over 5k unless you put a load of money at them and I mean like 8k+ I had that much into mine and at 6k redline she was rapped out. I had this motor in a 84 trans-am and had way to much tire killing fun with it, sold it to make down payment on my house and a few years later bought my 84 928 euro. (great up grade in my book over the TA)
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The motor, if you had a chevy to put in there, would have been a 302 they put in the 69' z28's. Turns great rpms, plenty of HP. (much more than they advertised). Then you just convert the carb to injection. Only item I didnt care for were the solid lifters on them. (which is why the great rpms).
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I've found a wonderful steam engine that fits nicely in my '85 and also a vacuum tube computer for engine management. It uses punch cards and takes up the entire cargo space, but what the heck! It keeps me warm as I drive.
After those mods, I'll be retrofitting some wooden spoked wagon wheels and will replace the H-4's with some oil lamps.
Anyways, I think it's great that some of you guys are swapping motors because that just means more OEM stuff for me on EBAY, right?! Don't just stash that 32 valver in the corner of your garage! Please recycle...
I just wish some of you guys would also remove the transaxle in liu of a muncy 4 speed and solid rear end. Much better options for gearing with an old Camaro rear end. Ford 9" is nice, too. I've got one in my '69 Bronco. It's so hard to find 928 5-speeds at a decent price.
Good or bad, keep us appraised of any progress.
After those mods, I'll be retrofitting some wooden spoked wagon wheels and will replace the H-4's with some oil lamps.
Anyways, I think it's great that some of you guys are swapping motors because that just means more OEM stuff for me on EBAY, right?! Don't just stash that 32 valver in the corner of your garage! Please recycle...
I just wish some of you guys would also remove the transaxle in liu of a muncy 4 speed and solid rear end. Much better options for gearing with an old Camaro rear end. Ford 9" is nice, too. I've got one in my '69 Bronco. It's so hard to find 928 5-speeds at a decent price.
Good or bad, keep us appraised of any progress.
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If he was going to desecrate the car, he could have at least stuck a HEMI in it. <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" />
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Well, there are a couple reasons to do this.
One is cost.
One is preformance
These were cars with dead engines, needing rebuilds. So yes, they could swap with a used 928 engine from a parts car, but then it may die in short order as well. So if you really rebuild it right, or get a newer 928 engine, you are talking a lot of money. Your other option when you have a dead engine, is simply to buy another cheap 928 with a working engine and drive that, and toss the dead car. But that still leaves a porsche body, with a dead engine, that costs more to rebuild, than it costs to buy another 928. So what do you do with these great cars, with dead engines? You can part them out. But if someone can put another kind of engine in the car, and keep it on the road, why not?
Not to mention item #2, which is speed and power. If it is a 1979 928, as this one is, is 230HP good enough for most of you? Not usually. We want to be able to be faster. But what are your options? Swap an s4 engine? Pricey, and complicated. Easier to just buy an s4. Stroker? Pricey. Supercharger? Pricey, and risky. NOS? Also risky. Chips, headers, and external mods will only gain you a small amount of horsepower, and not much additional torque. Swapping in an LT1 will give you lots of power, torque, and it is cheap and easy to work on, and modify.
My point is that if you have a 928 with a lot of power, and it is reliable, and fast, then great...
Enjoy the car's unique character, balance, and power characteristics...
But if you have an old car, with a dead or dying engine, what options do you have?
Or if you want an 800 HP car, and lots of torque, and you do not have a bottomless wallet, what do you do?
I think these swaps are a valid option.
The new Corvette is no slouch.
Not all American V8s are piles of crap.
I think if a 928's engine has died, putting in the adapter kit from Renegade is a valid option. Once the adapter is in, future owners of the car can swap in any American V8 they want. When it comes time for repairs, or a rebuild, it will be much cheaper the second time around. And you can make it as fast as you want, for much cheaper...
Like I said, if you want to keep it a true Porsche, just buy another 928. But if you have a dead engine, this seems like a decent way to keep the car alive. It will still have the transmission in the back, it will still have the great suspension, interior, and styling.
It's not a Porsche 928 anymore, but it will sure be a faster car than stock, and cheaper to repair...
One is cost.
One is preformance
These were cars with dead engines, needing rebuilds. So yes, they could swap with a used 928 engine from a parts car, but then it may die in short order as well. So if you really rebuild it right, or get a newer 928 engine, you are talking a lot of money. Your other option when you have a dead engine, is simply to buy another cheap 928 with a working engine and drive that, and toss the dead car. But that still leaves a porsche body, with a dead engine, that costs more to rebuild, than it costs to buy another 928. So what do you do with these great cars, with dead engines? You can part them out. But if someone can put another kind of engine in the car, and keep it on the road, why not?
Not to mention item #2, which is speed and power. If it is a 1979 928, as this one is, is 230HP good enough for most of you? Not usually. We want to be able to be faster. But what are your options? Swap an s4 engine? Pricey, and complicated. Easier to just buy an s4. Stroker? Pricey. Supercharger? Pricey, and risky. NOS? Also risky. Chips, headers, and external mods will only gain you a small amount of horsepower, and not much additional torque. Swapping in an LT1 will give you lots of power, torque, and it is cheap and easy to work on, and modify.
My point is that if you have a 928 with a lot of power, and it is reliable, and fast, then great...
Enjoy the car's unique character, balance, and power characteristics...
But if you have an old car, with a dead or dying engine, what options do you have?
Or if you want an 800 HP car, and lots of torque, and you do not have a bottomless wallet, what do you do?
I think these swaps are a valid option.
The new Corvette is no slouch.
Not all American V8s are piles of crap.
I think if a 928's engine has died, putting in the adapter kit from Renegade is a valid option. Once the adapter is in, future owners of the car can swap in any American V8 they want. When it comes time for repairs, or a rebuild, it will be much cheaper the second time around. And you can make it as fast as you want, for much cheaper...
Like I said, if you want to keep it a true Porsche, just buy another 928. But if you have a dead engine, this seems like a decent way to keep the car alive. It will still have the transmission in the back, it will still have the great suspension, interior, and styling.
It's not a Porsche 928 anymore, but it will sure be a faster car than stock, and cheaper to repair...
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Small Chevy is cheap, reliable hp and torque. The 400 ci variety pumps out 425 lbs. Stock. Off the shelf. Parts are everywhere you go. Anyone can work on them. They're just better suited to a swap into something with less what, character, than a 928. Like a 240Z. Now there's an animal.
As a reasonable alternative to keeping the chassis on the road, fine. Just keep the hood closed.
As a reasonable alternative to keeping the chassis on the road, fine. Just keep the hood closed.